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I'm re-posting this entry now since there were comments already posted to it.
Some background on this video:
It was taken on July 22, 2007 at Layforce San Carlos Seminary, when the newly elected council met with the provincial area heads in a consultation meeting. I will be posting the complete video soon.
Sunday, September 30, 2007
The Heart Of The Matter
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34 comments:
CD,
please put the timeline of this video. When was this meeting?
thanks...
Sis. Gigi Maipid
Mabuhay Ka. Thank you for your Courage in speaking the TRUTH !!!
God bless you and Bro. Ernie always !!!
God bless our CFC !!!
I've just bought a CD of the 12 CLP talks, including the Orientation talk in MP3 format during the CLT last Saturday. It is a recording of these talks with Bro. Frank Padilla as the speaker. I have yet to hear the 12 talks but I played Talk No. 9 because we had a CLP on that evening and it was Talk No. 9.
I just want to let everyone to listen to the 4.40 time frame and onwards of Bro. Frank's talk and you be the judge because it was like a prophecy told which had its fulfillment now. I cannot attach that segment of the talk but I encourage everyone to buy this CD at our Flames outlet because the proceeds will go to the FTPW fund.
Thanks, God bless and happy listening.
Servant
No body asked the questioned for the past 25 years...
Those who had different opinions where fired... Ask the Urginos, Ask Tito Arch (Cleveland Ohio CFC Country Council, the only American in office)
We were asked to be obiedent...
No body was brave enough to tell the king that we was "naked" (emperor and his new clothes).
is it cultural.... we Filipino would stomach lies and inconsistency to avoid conflict.
This trial will make us better. Everything comes from the Father... we only ask that He humble us to see His wisdom and we can learn from them. If we fail to see that lesson... it will happen again until we learn it.
I grew up in CFC and i have been a witness to 3 breaks. I do pray that we have learned from all them.
The revelations by Gigi Maipid only confirm what many of us on the ground have been hearing all along. I have tried all this time to ignore these talks, dismissing them as mere rumors and refusing to believe that the highly revered and respected Gerry P. could stoop so low as to allow her personal prejudice (is it jealouy?) against TM to destroy not only the (deep?) personal relationships built over so many years of serving together and basking together in the limelight. What really hurts most is the fragmentation of CFC! She did not mind (and in fact revelled) when she chaired the first GK Expo at the Fort in 2003 when FAP proudly launched GK 777 on his birthday, October 4 (di kaya ego trip iyon?). Sayang Gerry, higly educated and alta sociedad ka pa naman. This only proves that only the HEART defines a person's character, not his /her wealth, education nor stature in society.
To the IC: With all the half truths, blatant lies and disinformation coming from the FFL, I think it is now incumbent upon you to come out with regular official statements to present the truth. It is obvious that the other side is not in the least interested in reconciliation but has engaged instead in a total war of attrition. You owe it to the thousands of bewildered CFC members
who groping in the dark.
at least confirm info namin na INGGITAN LANG TALAGA ang puno't dulo nito. dapat nakasulat na sa by laws natin noon pa na lahat ng awards kay Frank at Gerry lang pwde ibigay
i don't know if FP wants to be King but i think he is playing god all this time...tsk tsk chek!!!
I know Tito Ernie he was our cluster head in NorthB when we were in Della Strada. Today it is a miracle that he can walk (although with a cane), much more travel around to give talks. All these issues in CFC can really give him a massive heart attack.
I cried when I watched the video. Who wants to loose a spouse? Such courage and faith is to be exemplified. That is a real fear the Maipids face everyday as they continue with their work in CFC.
To answer the question; No I don't want to take the role that they undertake. I pray for the Lord to bless you. I honor you for speaking the truth, most specially for standing for the truth without having to malign people. ( XYZ?)
The truth indeed has set you free!
I honor you Sis Gigi!!!
How I wish our brothers have a heart like yours (even a small part of it).
1. You are showing great courage to tell the truth without destroying the person's involve
2. You are showing how to "hate the sin, not the sinner"
3. You are showing how it is to be a loving/caring/supportive/obedient wife
God bless you and "please continue on serving the Lord", you exemplify what it really means to be a couples for christ. We still have a lot to learn from you.
To EB-3C,
I know exactly what you are referring to. Frank Padilla's Talk #9 recorded in the FLAMES CD is really prophetic. We should pay close attention to what Frank's warning was in that talk. You really have to hear it to believe in it's fulfillment.
hi cd,
This meeting was during the Area Heads and Area Directors meeting with the new CFC International council. Monday, June 25, 2007. The day after the CFC Anniversary
i would like to thank XYZ for creating FFL, otherwise had she stayed on, it won't be long before we'd become CFZ..zzzalamat madam X
Tama si Bro Raffy. In order to move on, we must have a policy statement. Yes, the general membership are now behind the International Council, and for good reasons.
We must drop the hate we have in our hearts, let us not solidify this so as to harden our hearts beyond repair.
Also, we must lift up this "Lamentation" to the Lord. After all, the FFLs have lifted theirs.
Yes, International Council, like Joshua, let us take possession of the Land God gave us. MOSES is Dead, he departed us. Whatever good FAP did to CFC, let us remember him with gratitude. But never let this be a stumbling block to us. Let us press on, there is so much community and nation building to do.
Sis. Gigi is right, let us not weep anymore. Let us not lose our goals, let us not lose anymore any of the God given gifts to us. Let us not put so much pressure on the present International Council. They are in their advanced age, let us not grieve them anymore. We must let them know that we are with them till the end of days. As assuring as Christ to Christians.
Please CFC Council, lead us away from this Lamentation. Declare a new era in CFC life.
CFC Emmaus
cfc-emmaus.blogspot.com
To CD,
May we know if you have already posted Part 2 of Fr. Mario's talk during the Elders' retreat.
Thanks and God bless
Servant
I've already watched this consultation meeting with the Area Heads, and as far as I am concern these things were some how not being cleared. I just like to raise a few questions and it would be fair for us here in the grounds to know what is the real score.
Here it is:
1. Is it really a power struggle in the top most leaders which pave the way for this split?
2. How true is it that Gerry P. arranged for the awarding of the RM awards for CFC as a group ( which is a unprecedence to previous years of giving this "Nobel Peace" of Asia) given the fact that this award was only given to an individual?
3. Was there any money matters involve in this events(cause I smell one)?
4. How much did the community earn in the Manuel Villar Ad before the election? Who permitted its release? Was it a Council decision?
5.Where is the DOH donation was it liquidated?
6. Lastly, did you chuck out the person who made all these event?
Let us just reflect on what the Lord said in the midst of the people who tried to stone a whore to death, "... He who among you is blameless and free of guilt,cast the first stone."
This is just a wisdom from someone who is innocent and just a victim of these event. I am from YFC, and as I can see it we the youth are the most affected of this split. I saw the hurts in my brethrens' heart, and I am hurt, us being torn apart.
Anyone can answer these. I just want to know the truth being, just the naked, whole and real truth.
May God be praised!
For the IC and Sis Gigi,
Please remain in IC, Never Resign! Never Leave! Rebuke the wicked and the evil one for with GOD you will be victorious. If you resign or leave the community then Satan is laughing.
We're with you all the way.
I maybe a sinner and continue my journey towards renewal. I will be one of the last men standing for CFC.
ordinary member - canada
To CFC IC and CFC Bloggers...
I'd like to revisit the past to put perspective to Ernie's wife (Gigi) question in the Video "What happens if the other four (4) Council members resigned instead of the three (3) other members (titans or small g).
We all know the answers to this. It happened already in their watch when NO BODY lifted a finger when two (2) council members were chopped off 'cause they can't support GK 100% (in the early beginings).
Let me borrow from sleeplessinNJ
"No body asked the questioned for the past 25 years...
Those who had different opinions where fired... Ask the Urginos, Ask Tito Arch (Cleveland Ohio CFC Country Council, the only American in office..."
Be Glad, GOD did the firing of the small gods (this time around) for US guys. They RESIGNED!!!
Now we have fresh AIR w/o FEAR of irking the demigods. Lets MOVE ON, and finish the task prepared of US by the LORD. Wala ng SAGABAL (or saBAGAL)....
Lest GOD make another round of FIRING.
Sorry po pero July 22 po yung meeting sa video ni Sis. Gigi M. Consultation meeting of the CFC International Council with CFC Provincial Leaders.
Dear eb-3c...
Here it is - CLP Talk #9 from 4:40 to 7:00 minute mark..
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3954480a80aee6/
I really admire T2 Raffy for being one of the people who is willing to defend teh council
It's my first time to hear from the heart of an IC wife and I feel proud of her.
In my discernment, that's really what is going on right now in the community. Both sides are trying to defend each other. It doesn't matter now who will get hurt.
We don't sound like brothers and sisters in Christ anymore.
Both sides keep on searching how to put each others down which is natural because they're trying to get more brethren to go to their side. It's like a rope game, if you give less energy to pull the rope, you'll lose the game.
I just hope that the source of that energy is divine...if not, just let the rope go. It's better to lose with clear conscience, blameless and pure in God's eye.
WOW! Frank Padilla was really prophetic in his Talk #9
Thank you "CFC Cluster 2 Chapter D" for that audio.
when we call ourselves prophetic... who do we praise... God or... ourselves.
Look at me I am prophetic because "i predicted what is to come."
Is the gift of prophecy for self glorification? Or is a gift of humility?
Bewarn, there is a thin line between prophecy and witchcraft. Is it different from looking in a crystal ball? Prophecy is overrated and is another form of self promotion.
Lord, I dont know what the future holds for me, but i submit myself to your will.
If God will bless me with any of His gifts, i would pray for the gift of love and empathy, so i can understand my brothers and sisters, so i can make myself available when they need a shoulder to cry on, to see beyond our differences, so I may learn to forgive and continue to love.
Bro. Frank is indeed a prophet. But we have to remember there are 2 kinds of prophets. One True and another False.
Bro. Frank definitely played out both and is currently now of the latter type.
Why?
Because, although he did accurately predict/prophesy that our community will indeed break up, due to leaders and elders who will be used by Satan to sow conflict and division, he let himself become the fulfillment of his own prophesies.
He has eerily played out the role that he has constantly been warning the community about in his talks, in his books, in his articles.
A disgraced once true and now FALSE prophet indeed!
The Villar's are Pro choice advocates and they have been so open about this. Why then is Frank holding FFL office in their building.
Puede ba mga kapatid, ayusin natin ang CFC, huwag na tayong makialam sa FFL, bahala na sila mag-ayos nang grupo nila at kung sino ang mga partner nila, kung pro-choice o pro-life ba, kung pro-poor or pro-rich ba, kung pro-gk or pro-evangelization ba.
TAMA NA! sinasabi ninyong mga hypocrito sila dahil nambato sila nang bato, pero kayo? tinapay ba ang binato nyo? mag-dasal, mag-isip at magramdam kayo bago kayo mambato. Itanong nyo sa sarili nyo, eto ba eh galing sa Diyos? Ang sasabihin ko tama ba sa mata nang Diyos. Kung sa akin ang pagbintang na ito, masasaktan ba ako? Oo, masakit ang mga sinabi nila, pero kailangan ba ninyong maglabas din nang galit? katulad nang pamimintang nyo sa FFL? eh kung ganoon, sama na kayo doon.
Greetings of Peace from the islands!
to all of us who at least once commented with maligning thoughts to frank padilla (with special mention to fortes in fide and his/her prophetical analogous):
why do we keep on indulging ourselves in a seemingly love-less situations? why is it that whenever we have a blogging chance, we just write them down without brethren love in our thoughts. are we trying to win or lose the hearts of CFC members groping in the dark; the sheep that was lost?
most of the bloggers here are for moving forward, working with the IC with the positive attitude. tayo naman post pa ng post ng mga negative comments, slandering mortals that are already being accounted for by the Devil himself. bakit hindi natin i-post ang mga good news na nangyayari ngayon sa area natin? aftermath ng malaking DAGOK sa ating lahat. 180 degrees turn na tayo nung nag-CLP tayo tapos nag-180 ulit tayo. tuloy pwet natin ang humaharap sa Kinabukasan.
ke-nag prophesied si frank or hindi, ke si frank yung naging Devil or tayo, pwede ba, let's move on and work on the vineyard already? the work ahead before the bangayan was magnanimous already, and every CFC member knew that. lalung-lalo pa ngayon that healing is the most necessary Rx.
Let us help each other move forward. Tulungan natin ang FFL ni frank. Tulungan natin ang IC natin. Tulungan natin ang GK. Tulungan din natin ang ating sarili! We should not be all out of LOVE. We should not be so lost without him.
I love you all!
2. How true is it that Gerry P. arranged for the awarding of the RM awards for CFC as a group ( which is a unprecedence to previous years of giving this "Nobel Peace" of Asia) given the fact that this award was only given to an individual?
sabi nga ng bubuwit ko... puede ngang GP arranged for CFC award. pero the same award is also given to Groups, you can check the website po.
4. How much did the community earn in the Manuel Villar Ad before the election? Who permitted its release? Was it a Council decision?
if you listen to the 2nd video, parang na-mention ni bro.joe yam na this did not pass through the council's approval. i think it only passed through a few [female] personalities
thanks... Agent008
HI CD,
Dont you think that this blog gave a lot already?
I think it's time to move on.
Tapos na boxing, I think the truth came out already.
We just have to accept and respect each other decision. May lilipat then bahala na sila, we hope them well as they journey their life.
LET"S GO ON TO OUR MISSION BROTHERS AND SISTERS
Anonymous said...
Puede ba mga kapatid, ayusin natin ang CFC, huwag na tayong makialam sa FFL, bahala na sila mag-ayos nang grupo nila at kung sino ang mga partner nila, kung pro-choice o pro-life ba, kung pro-poor or pro-rich ba, kung pro-gk or pro-evangelization ba.
TAMA NA!...katulad nang pamimintang nyo sa FFL? eh kung ganoon, sama na kayo doon.
kapatid, hwag masyadong high blood. thats the beauty of blogs, you can speak your mind out. sometimes it hurts but thats reality. nagtatanong lang naman for the sake of discussion. for the past 26 years these things did not surface. for the past years hindi ito naitanong. ngayon lang siguro nagkakaroon ng pagkakataon. sa pagtagal-tagal eh lilipas din yan. Kewl ka lang, kapatid.
You are free to read the comments and free to comment to readers as well. you can opt to read the comments that are informative and brush off those that you think are not.
suggest you read the FFL blogs too... and then put a SMILE on your lips.
love you, kapatid.
thanks... SAgent008
To mike_h,
You're RIGHT and the Rx to our current dilema is LOVE.
The wounds caused by the separation needs to be cleaned to HEAL. And the best antiseptic is LOVE from our fellow brother/sister in CFC.
How do we do that?
To the care givers, just extends a listening ear (w/ LOVE) to the one hurting, helps eases the PAIN. We don't even need to make a comment if not asked, just listen. Sooner than later the wound HEALS.
To the Wounded Victims, just spill out that PAIN, share your story. If you want to spell it out, write it down and ask the group to pray over it and give it to God.
How?
(Be sure you don't have a Fire Alarm)
Burn the paper you wrote it on and visualize the PAIN going to smokes and lifted to the Heavens.
Try these in your Household.
i don't know if the maipid video was intentionally removed. kung hindi, and for some reason CD could not re-post it, here's the link ulit:
http://www.zshare.net/video/40051883896948/
kung talagang bawal kailangang tanggalin na ang video, paki-sabi lang at i will gladly delete it.
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