It's about time.
Download the PDF version HERE.
To give this statement even bigger teeth, here are the first couple of pages of the FFL's bylaws:
Just so they can stop denying they've got a legitimate corporation (or at least are trying to set up one) trying to usurp the identity of another.
Download all the pages (6) HERE.
I would like to give a big THANK YOU message to all the diligent "field reporters" who constantly supply me with information and news to share with the rest of you here. This blog will not be as effective without all your help. You know who you all are and you have my utmost gratitude.
Also, on all this talk of "demolition jobs" and anatomies, I believe the correct term is self-destruction. There's usually a red button for that, in this case I think it's shaped like a trumpet.
Download the PDF version HERE.
To give this statement even bigger teeth, here are the first couple of pages of the FFL's bylaws:
Just so they can stop denying they've got a legitimate corporation (or at least are trying to set up one) trying to usurp the identity of another.
Download all the pages (6) HERE.
I would like to give a big THANK YOU message to all the diligent "field reporters" who constantly supply me with information and news to share with the rest of you here. This blog will not be as effective without all your help. You know who you all are and you have my utmost gratitude.
Also, on all this talk of "demolition jobs" and anatomies, I believe the correct term is self-destruction. There's usually a red button for that, in this case I think it's shaped like a trumpet.
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38 comments:
This is a good move. I would like to see IC call for a press conference and make this announcement/declaration on National and hope the message reaches worldwide.
I believe that this is a document that we should email to all our contact persons and to media and news organizations we know. This is now addressed to the public in order to avert further confusion regarding the use of the name and identity of CFC.
God bless.
Thank You CFC IC for these statement. Now lets wait for the retraction from FFL, their ever "have answers to all/IC is lying" letters to all of us. When will they stop..sigh...
From vienna.....
Matagal na itong hinihintay.......
But there is a saying.... BETTER LATE THAN NEVER
Maybe we can send this memo to all of our friends in EF EF HELL...
Yes, please! I hope this letter would stop the confusions and we could go just go on fulfilling our respective missions. I love CFC and I would defend it as much as I can. But there's a greater challenge we must face nowadays: defending our catholic faith. So instead of putting our energy in looking at how our FFL brothers and sisters are hurting us in whatever way, I pray we could focus more on bringing Christ and introducing the beauty of our faith to non-Christians and non-Catholics.
singing to the tune of kenny loggins' "This is it"!
Are you gonna wait for your sign, your miracle
Stand up and fight
This is it
Make no mistake where you are
This is it
Your back's to the corner
This is it
Don't be a fool anymore
This is it
The waiting is over
No room to run
No way to hide
No time for wondering why
It's here
The moment is now
About to decide
Let him believe
Or leave him behind
THIS IS IT!
i applaud the IC for releasing this statement. we continue to support whatever ways necessary to uphold the community of CFC.
i hope we can have a ceasefire starting Dec. 01 and then the DANCEing starts on Dec. 02
hi CD,
thank u very much for this affirming news. I wish to comment on the link you provided on the FFL multiply site about the demolition job of FAP.
I am still in shock that the FFL group can still believe that there is a demolition job on Frank Padilla when they were the initiators of this whole thing?!
I don't want to make us sound like children pointing fingers and saying "but HE said this first..no no but wait, HE said this first.." it's really sickening and tiring.
Again, while it is ok for them to point out the seeming demolition job of Frank Padilla..they always fail to see the demolition job they do to Tony Meloto.
Tony Meloto (TM) is really "damned if you do, damned if you don't" in the eyes of FFL.
It's not worth it talaga...
I am eager to see the celebration at ULTRA on Dec 2!
I pray that our brethren in CFC will find peace and forgiveness in their hearts to let go of the FFL debacle and move on in LOVE and to fullfill our mandate!
God bless Couples for Christ!
Oh, and interestingly, they seem to be going against the Bishops' statement that FFL must start as a diocesan organization...
CD, whats the meaning of 'CDO'?
Sorry I really do not get it.
Dearest "Needing clarification",
You asked-
CD, whats the meaning of 'CDO'?
Here are the results of my interview:
a)Lito Tayag (accountant)-
Text ko sayo, it's a secured obligation...
Collateralized Debt Obligation
b)Al Gore(climate change advocate)-
Simple, it's a tropical storm...
Central Dense Overcast
c)Dr Joe Yamamoto (physician)-
Just an enzyme...
Cysteine Di-Oxygenase
d) Bill Gates-
It's a Microsoft application programming interface for data access...
Collaboration Data Objects
e)Jack Burgoyne (FFL-IT)
Text message from Bisbane, Australia-
Chief Data Officer is an information systems title
f)Fortes Fide (of Winnepeg) -
Where I come from, he/she is a Canadian official which advises the public and federal government on oral-health awareness...
Chief Dental Officer
g) Manny Hermano Council USA FFL-
Oh, it's where Aling Viring met Mang Puching on their JS Prom '67, a public school in Oro Valley, Arizona USA...
Canyon Del Oro High School
h) Raffy Blasco (vegetarian)-
Bro, I will never have it in my plate...
CDO cheesedog
i)Dodong B-
Ay naunsa ba pod kamo, taga diri baya akong waswit, the one and only...
Cagayan De Oro
I dare ask:
CD you sound tired you must be CDO?
CRIS DEFENSOR OVERWORKED!!!!
Here are the other meanings of "CDO", as it pertains to the CFC IC Statement of Nov 18 2007:
C - stands for 'CHRIST CENTERED; CLEAR, COMPLETE & CONCISE'.
D - stands for 'DECIDEDLY DEFINITE DIRECTIVES'
O - stands for 'OFFICIAL & OPERATIVE'
Since CFC IC came out with a statement, don't be surprised that as you read this, a comment is coming from FAP's Easter/Playboys & Bunnies Group!
So let's see, what could the meaning of CDO as it applies to what they will write in criticism of this CFC IC Statement?
Would "CONSISTENTLY DECEPTIVE OPINIONS" be enough?
OK ROME HAS SPOKEN...
This settles everything, from now on we will always be known as...
C F C
and they will forever be known as..
exC F C - nowF F L
END OF DISPUTE!
Amen?
You guys are funny =)
CDO = Cease and Desist Order.
That's it...nothing mysterious.
But if you'll allow me to get creative too: say this statement signals the end of the issues with the FFL and hence the end of this blog's purpose, then you'll have people exclaiming on Dec 2:
"Hey! Ayun Si CD O!"
CD
To concerned4truth:
I apologize that I didn't approve your other comments where you reposted some of the entries in the FFL blog. I've resolved not to get into a "tit for tat" battle with their blog (unless absolutely necessary) especially if they just keep rehashing the same old arguments. I'd also prefer not to give their entries a forum here since they're easily available on their site. So until they come out with something new and original, I'll try and keep this blog clean of their entries.
I hope you understand.
God Bless.
To neokid(mike),
Like I said earlier, TRUTH comes in 3 words THIS IS IT...
Ernie S
PS Happy Thanksgiving to ALL Bloggers!!!
guess we ALL were scratching our heads on what CD wanted to mean when he posted C D O... i myself had to email him and ask. =)
kase we're not legalistic enough. im sure others may have gotten it at one glance.
LOVE and JOY to ALL CFC Brethren!... CUDec2
CD will be there... yipee!
Indeed, it's about time the IC acted decisively with a CDO. It seemed really that the legal system is the only venue to persuade the FFL to drop the use of CFC in its name.
I hope that the other overseas Councils would do the same in their respective countries consistent with the declarations coming out of the various archbishops and bishops. Better still, maybe the IC works to secure a similar declaration from Rome after all the head of the IC is the ad hoc CFC representative to Rome.
If only they followed the lead of the brothers in Zurich it would not have come to this.
I just think that the IC really did good this time. Hindi kasi pwedeng tatahimik na lang tayo sa bawat issue na ilalabas ng FFL. Sometimes we should go out and clarify things that needs to be clarified.
Sana itigil na lang ng FFL ang pagpapalabas ng mga statements na hindi makakabuti sa lahat para matapos na ang gulong ito.
Sana matupad yung wish ni CD...para makilala na natin siya. We honor you brother (or sister?) for lighting the lamp and placing it at the lampstand for everybody to be enlightened.
Here in the Vicariate of Arabia, the pastoral letter (same letter affirming support to the origincal CFC) of the Bishop is being read during the Mass. This (hopefully) will put to rest anymore doubt on its authenticity. The only negative effect of this is that even non-CFC members (Filipinos and other nationalities) have become aware of the situation. But on second thought, well, we've got nothing to hide anyway, and truly we shouldn't be afraid to explain the issues to those who are seeking clarifications/answers.
Thank you IC for your statement! It clearly speaks the truth and of humility and love. I agree with you CD that the whole thing about ffl's "demolition" & "anatomies" are products of ffl spinner's wild and creative? (not to mention self-destructive) imagination. Mga brothers sa ffl puwede ba tama na! Join us na lang sa sayawan sa ultra!
Hi CD, no problem re the past post containing their response. I thought I better post this for you here, fyi, whether you feel it's appropriate to publish or not is no problem. Just sending it in case you haven't seen it already:
"The CFC-IC/GK has issued its latest circular which is a familiar refrain of its past memos. We are issuing the IC memo together with a rerun of our latest CFC-FFL blast so that we leave no stone unturned in answering untruths. In summary, CFC-FFL wishes to inform everyone that the SEC has not taken any action whatsoever on the CFC-FFL registration because of the IC objection, despite a pronouncement from no less than the IC " to relate in respect and love for our brethren who have decided to join CFC-FFL." Secondly, the Vatican has not said in any way that it does not recognize CFC-FFL. This is consistent with its generic recognition of Couples for Christ... full stop. Some form of clarification from the Church authorities concerned is expected to put this issue to rest.
CFC-FFL"
Now, this is in direct contradiction of the Bishops' statement that FFL must start as a diocesan association...
FFl's current emails addressing the IC's statement are directly contradicting Bishop Gabby's words from his Sep 7th clarification, Bishop Gabby's words as follows:
"The group of Bro.Frank Padilla will form the Couples For Christ for Family and Life. In order to get official recognition from the Church, the new Couples For Christ for Family and Life should start as a diocesan association, then later can apply for recognition as a national association if it has branches in other dioceses and even later as an international association. As a diocesan association, it can go to other dioceses provided the Bishop of the place permits."
magandang araw po sa inyo,
Ako po si aling viring ang kusinera ni sir cd, asawa ko po si mang puching, ang driver po nila.
Taga CFC po ako. sumulat po ako kasi madalas mabanggit ang aking pangalan. At balita ko pati asawa ko pala sikat na rin. Pinag uusapan pala kami mag mula sa household hanggang pastoral congress po. Kwento po ng asawa ko yan pag pumupunta po si sir CD sa meeting sa center. Sabi po yan nung isang driver na parati sa center.
Sikat po ang CDO sa amin, paborito po dito sa amin yung tosino. Gusto ko lang sanang sabihin na hindi po totoo na babae si sir CD, si mam po ang babae, at hindi rin po siya matanda, medyo kalbo lang po. Hindi rin po siya marunong sumayaw, kaya po sabi niya sa amin kukuha na lang siya ng picture sa ULTRA.
Kung may makita kayong kalbo na may dalang kamera na medyo di pa masyadong matanda, si sir CD po yun. Medyo mabigat po ang timbang niya at may kataasan ang tangkad. Nagsasalamin po at cute.
Sabi po kasi niya may pa contest daw sa dec 2, yung makakahula po kung sino siya may premyo.
Ayan marami na po akong clue okay. Yung anak ko po tawa ng tawa, kasi siya ang nag type nito.Anak ko po si Pilar dati po siya YFC pero ngayon ayaw na mag SFC.Sabi niya Baka daw kami mahuli ni sir. Di naman niya mahulaan kasi marami kami dito sa haws niya hehe.
Sige po sa susunod, ibang clue naman. ay siyanga pala, Yun pong chismis hindi po totoo na ako daw ay mahilig mag away.
PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS FFL STATEMENT!
"In summary, CFC-FFL wishes to inform everyone that the SEC has not taken any action whatsoever on the CFC-FFL registration because of the IC objection..."
DOES THIS MEAN FFL IS A NOT AN ENTITY YET BECAUSE SEC HAS NOT TAKEN ANY ACTION?
"...the Vatican has not said in any way that it does not recognize CFC-FFL."
COME AGAIN? HOW CAN VATICAN RECOGNIZE FFL WHEN IT IS NOT YET LEGALLY EXISTING?
They need a new SPIN DOCTOR... and FAST!
I would like to see this statement made public thru media. To help reach all the people thru out the country.
Also IC could ask/instruct the National Councils of respective countries to make these sort of open and clear statement/announcement.
Yes, spin indeed. The Bishops clearly said that FFL must apply first as a diocesan association, before it starts thinking bigger...as in, thinking big enough for the Vatican to recognize it.
Re "Demolition job on FAP," I remember distinctly that during the period 1993-1995 when FAP was neither Executive Director nor Council member, he still attended council meetings, made decisions and was in fact mainly respnsible for the amendment of the CFC by-laws which replaced the SEC mandated Board of Trustees with the Board of Elders. He obviously expected the remaining 4 council members to defer to him after his hasty and impulsive "resignation." He wanted to eat his cake and have it too and when he couldn't, he went into tantrums like a spoiled brat.
FFL said that -- "Some form of clarification from the Church authorities concerned is EXPECTED to put this issue to rest." (All caps mine).
Now we know FFL's next step. I suspect it's now in the works. I wonder who those church authorities will be this time. Trust them to "call on" church authorities.
Dear CD,
With your casual use of the term CDO, I'm beginning to suspect that you are my companero. Tama kaya, Aling Viring and Mang Puching?
Mina
Wow, that was quite a revelation from "bngo" (11/23 @ 4:18 pm) on FAP during those years of 1993-95!
Talaga? A non CFC IC member can attend a IC meeting and make amendments changing Board of Trustees to Board of Elders?
Is that really possible?
Ganoon ba talaga si Bro Frank?
"Raul said...
I would like to see this statement made public thru media. To help reach all the people thru out the country.
Also IC could ask/instruct the National Councils of respective countries to make these sort of open and clear statement/announcement."
In ref to Raul's post, I have been wondering ever since if it is not SOP for NC's to disseminate official IC statements and announcements. This practice was never done before from where I am, and I am hoping that it would be a change that we will all see with the new IC. If any authorative brod in the leadership would like to enlighten us on this, it will surely be very much appreciated.
"Bngo said...
Re "Demolition job on FAP," I remember distinctly that during the period 1993-1995 when FAP was neither Executive Director nor Council member, he still attended council meetings, made decisions and was in fact mainly respnsible for the amendment of the CFC by-laws which replaced the SEC mandated Board of Trustees with the Board of Elders."
Dear Bngo,
You sound very knowledgeable to details prior to and after the move of FAP and company from LNP.
I am very interested to know more about this part of the history of CFC and any more reliable info you could share will be appreciated.
BNGO,
Can you confirm if Frank was the one changing the By Laws that the members of the IC can nominate themselves therefore IT Created a Perpetual Nomination? Kaya pala 26 years Rule.
Just like to know
CFC Only
It is really a big step forward from IC Letter; address to FFL not to use the CFC name. We do support that kind of statements. But I guess that letter will remain
useless without the Vatican agreement with CFC. If all of you will just analyzed why the FFL are not removing the name CFC? It is because as long as the CFC name is with them they can freely share with us the Vatican recognition. The only way to stop this confusion and argument is to go to Vatican and explain properly what is really the score. I’m sure
Everyone will be cleared who ever has the right to have CFC name. Again the IC letter will remain not valid without authentic Vatican decision. I suggest the IC
to go to Vatican before it's too late.
Call me,
analyzed
Re FAP's role in the amendment to the CFC By-laws, former IC members Tony Aquino and Andy Lising and other elders like Rene Punzalan, Caloy Yturzaeta, Melo Villaroman, Sr. and other transferees from LNP can vouch (if they are willing to do so) for the sake of TRUTH.
kapatid said...
FFL said that -- "Some form of clarification from the Church authorities concerned is EXPECTED to put this issue to rest." (All caps mine).
Now we know FFL's next step. I suspect it's now in the works. I wonder who those church authorities will be this time. Trust them to "call on" church authorities.
Perhaps we need to start sending Frank's latest statement about this to some of the other Bishops, informing them of what FFL leaders are trying to do. What they are trying to do is get a reversal of the CBCP's statement that FFL must seek diocesan recognition, then national, then international.
Cluster 2 Chapter D said...
"...the Vatican has not said in any way that it does not recognize CFC-FFL."
COME AGAIN? HOW CAN VATICAN RECOGNIZE FFL WHEN IT IS NOT YET LEGALLY EXISTING?
Yes, it is spin. Essentially, it's simply stating that the Vatican has not said a single thing about FFL. Perhaps a simple "Who?" lang.
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