Have a care for your name, for it will stand by you better than precious treasures in the thousands; Sirach 41:12Update 6-20-08:
Open Letter to CFC-FFL from Frank Padilla.
Update 6-14-08:
Servant General statement from Frank Padilla.
Update 6-14-08:
We Remain Couples for Christ statement from the IC.
Update 6-13-08:
A new statement from the IC, please scroll to the bottom. The Easter Group also has a statement.
June 11, 2008 Council Statement
Download the statement HERE.Ok people, in this blog we have talked about the extent of how far we will go to protect the name of CFC. I think now, it is time to accept as the IC finally have, that we are in for the fight of our lives.
In the What's In A Name series, we've gone through the reasons why the Easter Group is pulling all the stops to claim the CFC name. They have taken the phrase "by hook or by crook" to heart and have resorted to devious means to steal our identity.
If they have gone to that extent, then we must do ALL we can do to stop them; to protect what is rightfully ours: As the the ones who have retained the charism, as the ones who continue the good work, and as the ones who were abandoned by these self serving former leaders in their so called effort to restore a charism that was never lost in the first place. Frank Padilla and his minions are out to see CFC destroyed.
Are we now to stand idly by and watch him do it?
In the Signed, Sealed, Delivered entry, jonitanitayturin noted that the majority of the respondents in the poll are willing to get their own names behind a petition. Well, now is as good as any to start. I'm asking all of you to leave your name in a comment on this entry to show your wholehearted support for the IC's stand, let us show them that they are not alone in this, and let us prove the strength and unity of CFC to any who may doubt it!
I can't do this alone my friends, I'm asking all of you now to do what it takes to help end this now and for all. Share this entry with your friends, pass on the IC's statement, and if you've never made a comment here before, now is the time.
You may also email your support for the IC's efforts to:
Update 6-13-08
The latest IC Statement:
Download HERE.SEC memo:
Highlights mine. Questionable grounds, eh?
Download the SEC memo re-instating CFC-FI in favor of the easter group HERE.
It is not over by a long shot my friends. Let's keep this going, our voices need to be heard now more than ever, because it was purposely IGNORED.
Update 6-13-08
The Easter Group is already celebrating:
Update 6-14-08:
We Remain Couples for Christ statement from the IC.
Download HERE.
Another statement from Frank Padilla:
I'd just like to ask if he's willing to publish Cardinal Rylko's letter to him the way he's been so haphazardly showing the Cardinal's letters to the IC.
I am getting the feeling that he is aiming to look like the magnanimous party here. What do you think?
Update 6-20-08:
Open Letter to CFC-FFL from Frank Padilla.
It seems, we are officially "evil", according to Frank's definition of the term. I guess that's what I get for exposing the truth about him.
I wonder why he doesn't allow his members to support him by allowing comments on his self-promotion blogs.
The outcome of the war is in our hands; the outcome of words is in the council.
-Homer The Iliad
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538 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 538 of 538Josh,
PLease read the STATUTE of the Couples for CHrist and learn kung anong dapat gagawin sa Member/Couples with UNREPENTANCE, do SERIOUS WRONG DOING and disOrder of the community.
EXPULSION!-No need to go to war indeed, He is expelled!
Maski babalik pa sya, sino maniniwala, a SCAMMER - ang PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ng CFC?
TAYONG LAHAT MAPASAM dyan.
To Josh who said:
"Such statements in this particular blog post do nothing to heal the rift in the CFC community. "
First of all, I visited your blog, you really should watch your language young man.
Also, maybe you should first research this blog and look at all the attempts to reason this and and how the FFL's continued attacks have led to this. They are not interested in reconciliation, only domination through a return to power. "By hook or by crook.." is actually the most accurate way to refer to the means that they have resorted to.
Sana MAKAKARATING ito ni Bishop Gabby, Lagdameo, Soc V and most specially, kay CARDINAL RYLKO.
Fax no ng Vatican...naka post sa one of the emails ni Frankster.
Hi Bro. Josh,
I'm Bro. Ryan, and I'm with YFC here in the USA. Christ's peace be with you!
I understand your concerns about the contents on this blog. Just remember the quote about "whoever is without sin, cast the first stone". Let's not criticize everyone here just because of how this may look to you at first.
Use discernment, prayer, and patience - any and all of the fruits of the Spirit while viewing this blog. The purpose of this blog is clearly stated in the beginning posts (viewable from the main page) and, if it still does not seem Christian to you, then you can avoid being a Pharisee and complaining in plain view (there are some good examples coming into mind) and go straight to the source. CD's contact info is plainly viewable.
God bless you and your family.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT IC GOD WILL PREVAIL.. WE WILL SUPPORT YOU AND OUR NAME COUPLES FOR CHRIST COZ WE HAVE THE BLESSING OF THE VATICAN.. THERE ARE MISREPRESENTATION IN THE FILING OF CFCFI WITH SEC.. YES PLS FILE A TRO.. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR STYLE LIKE THE FORGERY FROM THE LETTER OF CARD. RYLKO TO BRO. JOE TALE... SO PLEASE GO AND PROTECT OUR NAME, WE WILL ALWAYS PRAY FOR YOU.. GOD BLESS..
Boy Delantar
Luz Delantar
House Leaders, South B8D
Muntinlupa City
Bro Boy,
Dapat mag register sila ng FFL sa SEC (Frank Forgery Ltd.)
To Brother Josh,
I counted 9 occurrences of the word "f**k" in your blog (along with words "b*tch", "p*ssy", "sh*thead", etc). I appreciate your concern but this statement of yours apply to your blog as well:
"The content of this particular blog post is shocking and quite frankly, disturbing"
I have no problem with your blog because you are just exercising your right of free speech (and I will defend that right of yours to the death). But I find it disturbing when you claimed that your are YFC. Pero, hindi pa huli ang lahat kapatid, kami din naman mga makasalanan katulad mo. Naiintindihan namin na bata ka pa and you might think that these words are cool. May you find the true essence of living under the Spirit.
Mga Kapatid sa CFC, Happy 27th Anniversary!!! Kitakits tyo sa Luneta.
Para sa mga Kapatid sa FFL, Happy 1st Anniversary din sa inyo! We love you!
Bro. Ariel
The "S" in SG is more synonymous to "Serpeant" General, the Master of Disguise.
Things to Ponder:
Without Frank, what will become of FFL, Easter Group, Playboy Bunnies, Restoration Movement, FI, TBA?
If a member of the IC resigns, CFC-GMFI will still be intact because of its Vatican approved statutes.
Updated 6-20-08, FP's open letter to the CFC-FFL family. Please scroll to the bottom of the entry.
The last letter of Frank Padilla "Overcoming Evil with Good", clearly shows a case of schizophrenia. The one who wrote this letter must be the other personality Frank Padilla doesn't know about,I'm not a psychiatrist or a psychologist but I think Bro Frank should eat his own letter. Why is he going to the human courts if he is not the one who is wordly. Why does he lie about the 1 year existence of FFL and say they are 27 years in existence(Satan is the father of all lies). Why does he lie about the instructions of the Vatican . Why does he say Gawad Kalinga is anti life. Frank Padilla should accept God's will for him,its sad to see a man of his caliber self destruct and furthermore he wants to destroy God's work beacause he is no longer accepted as leader by the majority of the leaders and members. If I may suggest he and Gerry should go on a 40 day Ignatian retreat the we will all pray for the healing of his psychosis. He seems to be totally out of touch. Part of tomorrows celebration should be a bonfire using his books as fuel.
Brothers and Sisters,
It's our 27th Anniversary!
Let us Rejoice and be Glad!
Tama na muna ang negative comments.
Let us see each other at the Luneta tomorrow.
By the way, i received several text messages last night that our community is now debt-free. Congratulations to all of us most especially to the IC!!!
REJOICE and BE GLAD!
Love you all!
Lets continue to pray for a good weather. There's a storm "Frank" brewing.
This is what I fear all along, that someone will again paint himself as the victim.
Brethrens, we should stop our name-calling of Frank or leaders in FFL. Every time we say "Serpent General", "General Problem", "Frank Forgery Ltd", we are only adding credence to Frank's claim that he is the victim and that he is being maligned. Our only task is to correct any untruth that Frank and company are saying according to our perception. We are still bound as followers of Christ to love the person that is inside Frank, at the same time we are morally obligated to uphold justice and the Truth (reject sin but not the person).
I understand if we are getting frustrated sometimes and it shows in our very emotional response. But we are called by Christ to rise up above our natural human tendencies.
Remember to invoke the power of the Holy Spirit so that each of us can love everyone PERFECTLY, even people who are so unlovable, despite their weaknesses. Remind ourselves of Talk #9 that if we live by the Spirit, we can have a new heart, a heart of flesh instead of a heart of stone.
At this point, we have to pray for brother Frank that he will be victorious in his own spiritual battle within him. It is not in our CFC culture to bring people down but to bring out the best in them and to lift them up (and honor them if deserving). If some of them from the other group are not doing this, there is no reason why we have to be the same as them.
May God bless us all. I'm sorry if I sounded condescending.
-Deo
Baka naman hindi taga-CFC yung mga anonymous na naninira kay Frank, para lang masabi na aping-api nga si Frank.
comment on the latest open letter of frank padilla to cfc-ffl:
yan ang matagal na naming ginagawa ( ang mga pagdarasal at pagpapatawad ) simula nang umpisahan niya itong gulong ito.
siya ang nagsimula ng mga tampuhan,duda,inis,pangungutya na dinala pa niya dito sa southern california
kaya, kung maari lang, pagpatuloy natin ang pagdarasal lalo na sa taong nagtuturo ng daliri sa kapwa at hindi pansin ang dumi sa kanyang mga mata.
akolangnaman-socal east
Will History Repeat It Again For The 3rd Time Around?
What happens if FRANK doesn't get elected in the FFL's Board of Elders (or its equivalent). Will he form another community?
Naku, if he does, I'm sure he will still use the name CFC!
Kailangan masabihan yung mga mayari ng CFC Bakery, CFC Carinderia, CFC Bulaluhan, CFC Taxi, etc. na ingatan ang pangalan nila.. at baka may kumuha na naman...
Here goes Frank Padilla again. He is just all talk and no walk.
If he had only done EVERYTHING he said in his talks, wrote in his books, articles and statements including this latest open letter, then this our beloved community would not be in this mess.
Frank you are the biggest HYPOCRITE of all!
Grabe! Bagyo ka talaga!
Siguro mga kapatid mas maganda kung invite na rin natin si SG sa anniversary natin para makita niya ang katotohonan kung mangyayari yon mga kapatid super grand Homecoming yun. We Love you Bro Frank!
Though I agree in principle to invite the Surgeon General err Servant pala, it's not wise because if ever he attends CFC's anniversary and surely the Saturday CFC crowd shall overwhelm (in number) the FFL crowd in their 1st anniversary the following day; he'll have the reason na kaya dumami ang CFC dahil sa CFC-FI's na kasama niyang na-invite. Get the point? (Unless the Saturday celebration will become a genuine day of Reunification & Reconciliation at walang ng Sunday FFL anniversary - I pray, Amen).
I also agree mag bonfire burning all of Frank's "hypocritical" books (unless FAP is miraculously exorcised before 4pm tomorrow). However, we may need an environmental clearance from DENR for the air pollution it will cauuse. The storm "Frank" might also collaborate with him.
I agree, burn ALL the remaining copies of the books written by Frank Padilla.
Who knows the thick smoke that goes up will drive away the storm that is coincidentally (or providentially) also called Frank.
The conflict opened a Pandora box; we learned a lot about the CFC origins. God is truly faithful, He is a god of truth & allowed the truth to be revealed. He cleans & purifies the community. Clearly, the fruit of our labors will show who we are. Let's continue to be a help and a light to others. But let us continue to defend the name (CFC) that no other may use it (Cardinal Rylko), especially if with malice, deceptions & lies.
As for me and my household, we are behind the IC in defending the name CFC whenever and whatever it takes. Count us in.
Zo/Nanette Delos Santos
Project Director
GK San Nicolas
Davao City
Again, Frank writes these self-promoting letters because he believes and he knows that FFL members are BLIND FOLLOWERS who cannot see through or refuse to see through all his obvious lies/deceptions and exposed sins, even as he was the CFC head at the time he committed that serious wrongdoing - that of being a big-time LAND SCAMMER!
Mga mahal na kapatid sa FFL - for your own sakes, WAKE UP na po!
THE GREAT CFC ARMY WILL WEATHER THIS STORM!!!
CD and ALL:
Here’s an UPDATE on the “Call to Arms” among the CFC through this blog as of today, June 20, 2008, the last entry at 11:56 AM being that of “akolangnaman-socal east”. I have considered a total of 17 similar entries like his, that is, “with aliases only” . I have the details on all the respondents in an excel file.
A. The individual and collective responses came from TEN countres, namely:
1. Philippines -249
2. USA - 15
3. Canada - 8
4. Abu Dhabi - 3
5. Austria - 2
6. Malaysia - 1
7. Switzerland (Geneva) - 2
8. UK - 2
9. Germany - 2 (1 collective response from the Gov. Team of Frankfurt)
10. Spain (Barcelona) - 1 (collective response from the CFC and FM of Barcelona)
Total Responses = 285
B. A total of 38 leaders who are classified into 9 categories expressed full support to the IC as follows:
1. Sub-Regional Area Head (for SE Europe based in Vienna) - 1
2. Board of Elders - 2
3. Sector Head – 1
4. Cluster Heads – 5
5. Chapter Heads – 9
6. Unit Heads – 2
7. Household Heads – 2
8. Couple Coordinators – 12
9. Individ’l Coordinators (of various ministries) - 4
C. It may be important to note that 50% of the leaders who responded here represent those who have DIRECT COMMAND of the CFC faithful, i.e., from sector leaders down to household leaders. It is equally important to note of some responses that informed that detailed names could not be given here in the blog because the area leaders have already signed up the solid support of their whole contingents by communicating directly with the CFC-IC.
If the blog responses constitute a fairly reliable sample, then it is significant that in a short notice the field commanders and their infantry, representing roughly 50% of the membership of CFC are ALREADY battle-ready for the defense of the CFC-IC!. I have reason to believe therefore, and with this I do hope it becomes an inspired assurance during our Anniversary Celebration, that if the FFL decides to engage, CFC under the IC is ever ready to OVERWHELM them in set-piece battle!
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!
PRAISE OUR LORD GOD FOREVERMORE!!
AMEN!!!
[CD, I am posting it here as well as in the “CALL TO ARMS”. May we CONTINUE TO SIGN UP for THE IC ARMY IN THIS GREAT BATTLE. GOD BLESS.]
Beware of manny villar's clout. He has the connection to influence the SEC and perhaps the courts. Surely his influence was a factor why the SEC gave its nod to FP to revived CFCFI.
By this time, He has been brainwash by their household head, FP and GP, that he can still manage to win without the CFC vote.
Let us show him that FP and GP are wrong. Let us not allow him to win otherwise, if he does win, then FP will use him to destroy us. Let us fight FP in this battlefront.
Forwardlooking said:
"Beware of manny villar's clout. He has the connection to influence the SEC and perhaps the courts. Surely his influence was a factor why the SEC gave its nod to FP to revived CFCFI.
By this time, He has been brainwash by their household head, FP and GP, that he can still manage to win without the CFC vote.
Let us show him that FP and GP are wrong. Let us not allow him to win otherwise, if he does win, then FP will use him to destroy us. Let us fight FP in this battlefront."
You mean FFL leadership and Manny Villar might have used corruption to forward FFL's efforts?
Grabe.
Frank said: "I advise you all not to respond to anonymous emails or blogs that attack us....hoping that the truth will set people free."
WOW. Grabe, sometimes I wonder whether Frank ever feels how ironic or kapal he has been.
He was telling us if we wanted the truth we should accept his version only - I remember those exact words from him.
But he doesn't want FFL to hear the facts and figures exposed on this blog, for sure.
He also seems to forget that entries on this blog by and large follow attacks coming from the FFL office.
Sometimes reading Frank's words feels like banging one's head against a wall.
After the 27th ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION,
LET US LET GO and ignore this guy.
He is draining our energy and wasting our time.
Just pity and pray the PEOPLE who continue to follow this guy, PREVIOUS CFC Director, Considered himself the KEEPER of the CHARISM but for Crying out Loud, HE graduated his CLP last 1981 and lead a RENEWAL GROUP but COMMITTED SERIOUS WRONG DOING as GUILTY in 2001 - A LAND SCAMMER.
HE HAS NO MORAL AUTHORITY TO LEAD!
1981-2001
20 YEARS of the RENEWAL COMMUNITY and the TOP Pastoral LEADER.
BUT COMMITTED a SERIOUS WRONG DOING (SIN).
2002-2007 .... LAMENTATION
2007 GUILT of INFEDILITY,
Resigned and wanted to RESTORE...
Thank you for posting tito Frank's letter.
Peace to all of you!
- former CFC member
mga kapatid!
i've just been to the clergy-lay congress at valle verde country club. and i must say, the whole day was truly, in sister bernie's words, IIEE--interesting, inspirational, educational, and enlightening. today is the beginning of a more intimate (if i may use the word) relationship between us lay people (CFC in particular) and the clergy.
ipagpatuloy natin ang magandang simulang ito!
Suggestion:
Please blessed the books with Holy water to exrocise EVIL in the name of the Father, Son and HOly SPirit before THrowing into the Bon FIre.
Mga Kapatid, How's the 27th Anniversary Celebration with Typhoon Frank entering the Phils?
Is this coincidental?
Typhoon Frank (International Code : Fengshen )
Look at Fengshen in Wikipedia.
To Anonymous who said Frank's books should be burned...
Kapatid the last time the world witnessed book burning was during Hitler's reign. The books are not evil, brother. They cannot become hypocritical just because their author decided to be someone else.
It is the one person that needs correction, not the books. Keep your cool, bro. Keep your balance. We cannot allow his pronouncements to determine what kind of people we are.
God bless.
TE-Germany
Tama ka TE-GErmany, Thank you.
I will change my suggestion, JUST BLess them with Holy Water and KEEP it, DOnt throw it to the Bon Fire.
I MISINTERPRETED THE RESULTS; I AM SORRY
Just came from a prayer/healing session and was bothered with the following statement I made this afternoon:
“If the blog responses constitute a fairly reliable sample, then it is significant that in a short notice the field commanders and their infantry, representing roughly 50% of the membership of CFC are ALREADY battle-ready for the defense of the CFC-IC!.”
Not true! CFC leaders with direct command of the CFC “infantry” comprise 50% of the respondent-leaders. There is no indication that they represent 50% of the total CFC membership. I am so sorry, indeed.
The rest of the statements stand, especially the assertion that CFC will have an overwhelming force in a set-piece battle with FFL.
Once again, sorry.
Thank you. May God Bless Us.
An Open Response of SG's latest letter
To all FFL Members Worldwide,
Your leaders proclaimed your mission to be the same as ours - we are evangelizers. We all know that proclaiming the good news involves giving sight to the blind, liberating the captives and freeing the oppressed (Lk 4:16-21). Remember the CLP orientation talk?
Notice kapatid, that such a mission involves performing actions that are directed outward, i.e, toward others; not inward. Because the presumption is that we have already obtained them (liberation, freedom), the mission involves actions we do to and
for others.
As evangelizers therefore, we are called to action. We, both in CFC and FFL, also all know that one prime opportunity to evangelize someone is when we perceive that someone requires correction. This is because part of the goal of evangelization is helping to put the other unto the right path. Therefore, to be faithful to the calling means that none of us can afford to sit back and do nothing when correction is called for.
Praying for the other is intercessory and is definitely an outward action. Yet we all also understand that there are circumstances wherein we, in addition to praying, should act. This is usually when the circumstances carry a certain urgency. For instance, if we see someone who doesn't know how to swim fall into a swimming pool, we should do more than pray, right? While extreme examples like this may not be analogous to the situation now, they do serve to illustrate the concept clearly. There are situations when we should do more than just pray.
I believe that one such situation is when a person, over a period many months, continue to accuse others publicly without even once offering a shred of evidence. Another is when that someone, despite evidence to the contrary, insists on continuing with his
accusations. When someone tries to steal your name is another such situation. When someone attempts to put you in a bad light publicly by circulating a tampered letter
from the Vatican, this is clearly such a situation. Why? Because the actions involved untruths that are materially documented, such material documentation, be they letters, filings, memos, or public records, and because they are in the realm of temporal man, have to be corrected. We all know that man, because he is human, is susceptible to false preceptions and is easily led astray. The correction of public perception
requires action.
When you know that your organization is barely 1 year old yet your leaders force you to
celebrate a 27th anniversary, you know you are being forced to participate in a lie. This is certainly a situation requiring action.
Your leader accuses CFC of veering away. He started doing this when he left CFC and continues to do it today. Supposing we grant that he was right? If he was, do you realize that the CFC that veered away was the CFC that he himself led? We all know that his "reign" as CFC head was autocratic. What he wanted he got. Whatever he said got followed. Do you really believe that the CFC that he led veered away without his knowledge and consent? As he was autocratic, isn't it reasonable to conclude that if CFC did veer away it most probably did according to his wishes? And if veering away results in the loss of the charism as Frank charges, are you truly convinced that Frank STILL HAS the charism?
Please realize also that the current IC is not the same one that Frank accused of having partnerships with the pharma companies. That IC was the one Frank led. The current IC is the one THAT TERMINATED those partnerships. The current IC is not the IC that he accuses of pushing GK towards focusing only on social action. Again, that was
the IC that Frank led. The current IC is the one that realigned GK such that more than 80% of new CFC members came from GK.
Do you realize that your leaders are accusing the wrong people? And inspite of this, all you should do is pray and forgive? You will be forgiving the wrong people. Kapatid, this requires action to correct.
Frank also accuses the IC of wrongdoings. You know what kapatid, he never did specify
what these wrongdoings were except one - witchhunting. Have you verified if this is true? Frank won't probably allow you because you might read those damning documents that the IC refuses to make public to protect certain people; people who are now part
of your leadership. The IC is protecting them!
Kapatid we have a different IC today compared to Frank's time. Our current IC is implementing measures that will reduce the probability, if not eliminate, any
wrongdoing. The leaders will have term limits to prevent autocracy. The BOE and EA exercise oversight. Watch the election videos, observe their behavior, read their
pronouncements. Our IC today is one united body, not split by infighting like the one during Frank's reign. There is no vindictiveness in our current IC kapatid. In the same way, the CFC of today is a different CFC than the one during Frank's reign. Remember CLP talk 4? Repentance and Faith. Repentance, we recall, is a change of heart so that a
different behavior results. Our current IC has a different heart and it is clear from their behavior that they are correcting the mistakes of the past.
If you ask proof of these words, all you have to do is talk to the current IC. They are a lot more accesible to the members than the old one. They listen, too, and they listen well. Proof? The pastoral congress.
Our IC has recognized the need to act. That is why they told us that the time to be still is over.
We, both CFC and FFL, have a duty to act to correct the errors. If we fail in this duty, we would have abetted the concealment of truth. If we fail to act, we would give tacit acceptance to the errors perpetrated. Does the saying "the truth will set us free" refer only to the spiritual side of man? Does it not imply justice? That, as human beings, we need to work, to act to make truth evident? When we say the Lord's prayer and mouth the words "thy will be done on earth", are we just affirming God's rule or do the words imply that we have a duty to see to it that His Will will be done? And His Will includes justice. His Will includes correction of errors. His Will includes standing up for the oppressed. We have a duty to uphold the truth so it will be evident to everyone.
I urge you now to read Frank's letter again and again and then ask yourselves: Is your servant general telling you that you should respond by acting outward? The words he wrote are beautiful words, no doubt. But is he telling you to reach out to the other?
If you feel that we in CFC are maligning you and oppressing you in any way, then why do you not act to correct us? On the other hand, if you do not agree with the actions of your leaders and you see that CFC is being oppressed, why do you not act also? Does
being in FFL exempt you from action? Read Frank's letter and know that all he is telling you is to pray and be silent, forgive and turn the other cheek.
Do you realize that he is also telling you to stay out of the way? To do nothing in the face of blatant errors? To overlook faults and forgive even injustice? Perhaps including the ones he perpetrated? After all that has happened, your leader tells you that the situation is not worthy of action? Is your intelligence not insulted yet? What has to happen before you will act? When we forgive someone kapatid, it does no good when the other doesn't know you have forgiven him. To do that requires action on your part. But your leader advises you to do nothing outward.
If you believe CFC to be in error, then you have been given a chance to exercise your mission. Because you see an error, you now have the duty to correct us. But your leader advises you to pray and do nothing outward. How will the rift be healed?
If you yourselves do not agree with what your leaders are doing, you are also given a chance to fulfill your mission. You have a duty to correct them.
To those of you who agree with what I am saying here, you should also know that by telling you to do nothing, he is preventing you from doing your duty, from fulfilling your mission and ultimately from being faithful to the Lord.
Sino ka kapatid? Who are you? Can you still sleep peacefully at night knowing merong nangyayari't wala kang ginawa? Can you stay silent, do nothing, tolerate the
wrongdoings and still be able to face the Lord? Kaya nyo yun? You, who are called by Christ's name, chosen by Him for this mission and who have experienced the power of His grace? You, who are born into a free country, having the right and freedom of speech and respected by the laws of the land as a free citizen whose values and beliefs are worthy of protection? You, to whom the faculties of rational thinking, high intelligence and common sense was lovingly bestowed by God? Kaya nyo yun?
Kapatid my advise to you, is yes, do everything that Frank wrote in his letter. BUT DO MORE. Go beyond your duty to your leader. Act in the name of the Lord who keeps you. Do not be silent but speak up for truth! Exercise your right and freedom to speak. Seek the truth in all the charges and countercharges. Be open and be objective. Use your own intelligence. Decide for yourself. Don't allow your leaders to think for you.
In all honesty and candor, make your own judgment of the situation. Then decide who to stand up for.
There's a grand homecoming this weekend kapatid. I think you, in your heart of hearts know where your true home is.
God bless you.
TE-Germany
Joni,
'Wag na yang battle battle dyan, mga infantry or whatsoever.
NO need to count.
I think we can COUNT ALL IN.
We will continue to PRAY.
The Unity that EVERYONE is LONGING is in the HANDS of FFL members.
When THEY COME, true RECONCILIATION AND HEALING begins.
ABANDON the MAN & the WOMAN - In their 20 YEars in the RENEWAL, they COMMITTED a LAND SCAM (1981-2001)
It take 6 YEARS (2007) to REALIZED INFIDELITY and then WANTED to RESTORE INSTANTENOUSLY.
I AM STILL READING THE BOOKS OF FRANK PADILLA, MARAMI AKONG NATUTUNAN DOON! MAGANDA NAMAN YONG MGA TAECHING NIYA! DIBA SABI NI JESUS, " FOLLOW WHAT THEY SAY,DO NOT FOLLOW WHAT THEY DO?" ALAM KO MARAMI PARIN SA ATIN NA MGA LEADERS SA CFC NA MAY MGA NEGOSYO NA HINDI TAMA ANG MGA PAMAMARAAN! KONG NAKITA NATING MALI YONG NAGAWA NI BRO. FRANK, HUWAG NATING PAMARISAN! KAYA PINAKITA SA PANGINOON ANG LAHAT NA ITO PARA MAKA PAG-ISIP DIN TAYO KONG ANO RIN ANG MGA GINAGAWA NATIN. GOD BLESS US ALL!
Kapatid, Tama Ka.
So we also REFLECT this in ourselves,
Are we really renewed, changed?
Do we commit serious wrong doing?
God Have Mercy on us!
wow..im really excited sa homecoming mamya...cant wait....
nanggaling ako sa west b yfc service meeting with coords..hanep...salamt sa parents namin sa cfc..salamat sa guidance...
to brother josh,
yfc din ako...when i heard that some left the cfc, nagulantang din ako...dko alam san ako pupunta...then lately nabasa ko ung mga sinabi ni tito frank, and most of it ay nag agree ako...pero y left? iniwan sa ere... no one is perfect...salamat sa Diyos, nag stay ako sa cfc na nagturo sa akin magdasal...at maniwala ng sobra magmahal ang Diyos...kung sa ffl ka mag grow, y not? ok lng un..ok un! wla sa community yan..God bless to u
sa lahat ng mag tito's at tita's
fellow youths...see u sa homecoming!!!
happy 27th bday cfc!!!
ace rafols
yfc palawan/ yfc west b mla
Hello to everyone!
I'd like to greet everyone a Happy 27th Anniversary!!!
I'd like to see everyone later at Quirino Grandstand. However, i'd like to confess something to you all.
I was thinking not to come since yesterday...why? Here are my reasons:
1) This is the first time we will celebrate after the so called rift. I felt terribly sad and up to now i'm still a sad.
2) This will be the first anniversary celebration that i won't see my brethren that followed tito frank.
I feel sad because my former partner in service when we were still serving as YFC Cluster Youth Heads here in West A is in FFL and we won't celebrate God's victory together. Her parents decided to follow tito frank and carried the whole family. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing between us but respect and love as bros and sis in this community.
We were really close and i could say that during our stint as cluster heads, we reaped a lot of good fruits. It was during the mission "conquer all" days when we were working together. We didn't conquer magnitude of youth but we can say that those we evangelized together with Christ are still actively serving Him up to now, even without our guidance (i'm part of SFC now) i could see the seal in the eyes of those yfc that they love JESUS.
In my former service, if i am the most disorganized fellow, she is the most organized. She the one who reminds me of all the things i need to do for the day, and i was part of her driving force to continue even though the task is hard (of course Christ is her no.1 driving force). Let's just say we supplement each other in so many ways.
I opened this to everyone, maybe to remind us that we have friends on the other side of the fence. I know there are others out there who is still hurting up to now. I could just imagine how hard it is for a friend who is a ftw for GMFI, who is now assigned in some province whose parents are part of FFL.
Bros and Sis, Titos and Titas, I am part of this community. i pray that you listen to my plea and to the pleas of others who share the same view as mine. Let us stop giving names such as "Serpent General", "Surgeon General", etc...it's not helping at all. While we fight for what we believe is ours, let us not forget that they are still part of our family, our lives. I hate what's happening and what the other group is doing but i don't have the people behind it. "Sa ginagawa po kasi ng iba sa'tin, para na rin tayong walang pinagkaiba sa kanila".
I will come to our anniversary celebration to pray, together with the others for the fruits of the HS to come to us and still, for healing, reconciliation and unity.
I will remain part of CFC-GK, this is where i found the true meaning of my life when i was serving in GK areas. At the same time, i'll still continue to love and respect our friends from FFL.
Happy Anniversary Again!
God Bless!
"sorry magulo sharing ko, just want to share it and i believed you got my point. I love you all, I love Jesus"
“GO TELL THE SPARTANS…”
Joni’s output can highlight innate follies in FFL and CFC and the trouble the members are up against, as reflected in the dilemmas staring at them, like:
- Are they willing to stand up and fight for their respective organizations, and to that extent,
- Are they willing to even fight against each other, for which end,
- Are they willing to come forward and be counted individually?
In this blog, many have demanded the FFL members to refute serious observations against F Padilla, which call could have been derided also because, how can one be impressed by “285 Braves”, that include some children, when, in fact, CFC harps on close to a million-strong following?
I sense that most members of both groups are only “wanting” to be in a circus-type hype like an anniversary celebration, but at the core of their being, they are “unwilling” warriors characterized by a propensity to wish there was no war at all, to writhe at volunteering to be counted, and to hesitate or else refuse to stand up no matter if there was a brother-supporter behind or at the sides (Nonong’s terms like “twiddling”, “smoking pot” and “reading tea leaves” are near-welcome here, really).
Some deep reassessments are no doubt needed here about fighting a fight of faith for the inevitable “fall of Jericho”. It is all about the need to be in, vis-Ã -vis the want to be out of, the good fight; it is about having the nerves; it is about commitment. Let me assure,my brethren: only sheer exhaustion from ruthless killings may stop a determined and steeled FFL murderer from annihilating a hesitant and fretful CFC army – and I will not be surprised at all if the battle is lost for the softhearted, those who are, in local parlance, “pusong mamon”.
My friends THIS IS A CALL TO ARMS AND ARMY CONSCRIPTION! We beg to argue that the numbers, the warm bodies are needed. If not, let the “Brave 285” hold the fort at a “CFC Thermopylae”, and pray for at least one survivor to tell of their heroic defense…
Well, the hypothetical "determined and steeled FFL murderer" may just remain as such (hypothetical), as Viktorborg has clearly overdone the scenario. The call to arms for conscription in the CFC Army is, however, valid and it is also reasonable to "crunch" the numbers.
Perhaps after the anniversary celebration, more will sign in for the army. However, i think "conscript army" is a pejorative phrase. In act, we may not use it here because we are looking at a volunteer Christian CFC army.
Brod, Sis Anonymous:
Like me, you remain unknown. But since you do not want "battle battle" and suggest the counting of those who bravely signed up here be discontinued, could it have been more exciting if you signed up also? But then, another anonymous blogger here is quite right: it is a question of "nerve" which is not yet here. Mukhang nakakatakot nga (it does feel iffy). By the way, what is it we are really afraid of that prevents us from signing in or being identified for the sake of defending the true CFC? Kapatid, let this concern now be offered in a prayer for courage and fortitude...
'tol,
I understand why the military terminologies are being used here and I understand the rallying call. Just make sure we don't become warlike.
To eliminate a bad appendix, we need an invasive operation. As in medicine, sometimes things have to become "worse" before they can become better. Before each of us felt the profound peace born of the Lord's mercy, did we not have to confront our own demons first? Wasn't it the scariest thing we all had to do? Because often, we are our own enemy, the hardest thing to do is confront ourselves. But with repentance we did triumph to affirm that the Lord reigns in our lives, did we not? Confrontation preceded peace.
So, while warlike terminologies may be used to state points clearer, we have to make sure that whatever we do must pass the test of being consistent with the Lord's teaching. That means, when we seek to correct another, we must do so out of love, not anger or hatred.
Apropos rallying call. We need to be really clear on what we are rallying for. I propose the following:
1. Defend the Name. We rally around the call to clearly proclaim and legally confirm that ONLY CFC owns and has the right to use the name CFC. No other association is allowed to use this name. That means in everything we do, in everything we say, in everything we write, we never call FFL as CFC-FFL. That means we all do whatever is necessary, within the models of behavior consistent with our teachings, to achieve this goal. We must all be willing to pay the price. As JFK said in his inaugural address: " We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardships, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
2. Pray. We rally around the call to continue our intercessory prayers. But this is not the only area where we should work.
3. Correct FAP and Co. We become one in calling for Frank to repent and start walking the talk. Let's be clear about this. Frank and his close lieutenants have offended CFC as an organization, the CFC members suffering the personal hurts of separations, the FFL members who are suffering the same hurts, their "own" Bishops and the CBCP, the Vatican by tampering with the letter, the media and even the public by causing such a scandal.
4. Hearts and minds of FFL. We rally around the call to appeal to the intelligence and reason of each FFL member to decide for themselves by being fully informed of the facts. If, after being informed, they decide that they belong in FFL then let's rejoice in them. But if they find that they don't approve of what their leaders are doing and consequently where they are being led to, then they should show their integrity and moral honesty either by correcting their leaders or by coming back to the fold.
5. Brief the Defenders. We should rally around informing everyone here of the legal issues at hand. Frank has changed the nature of the conflict. It is now a legal issue. We are well advised to know the terrain of every battlefield. And if we are to fight to defend, then we better know everything about what we are defending against. We all need to understand the legal ramifications if we are to be effective defenders. However, be careful in publishing ideas on legal maneuvers and tricks. We don't want to help the opposition design better defenses.
6. Love. Whatever we do, the means we utilize to do them must be out of mercy, in the spirit of brotherly correction. Through all these areas, our behavior must be motivated by love of justice and of fellowman. Our intentions must be pure, mga kapatid, otherwise we will be no better.
I propose we focus our energies in these areas mga kapatid. That way we can have a more organized, a more focused approach. If there is an area we should rally around that I missed, please don't be silent.
I suggest further, that we find some means to measure gains in each specific area. How many are we really who are defending? In which area are you concentrating? Mga kapatid, the battlefield is not this blogsite. The battlefield is each and every CFC Area, unit, chapter and sector where FFL is. And even if they aren't, it is still a battlefield because we have to make sure that our very own members are likewise fully informed so that should we lose any, it would be because they decided with full knowledge and were not deceived.
'tol, it's time to put the words into action. Like Nike says "Just do it."
O ano, payag kayo? Let's get to work.
TE-Germany
Support, Prayers & Loyalty to the true CFC community - led by Jesus through the IC.
Kristone Capistrano
YFC Cluster Head,
SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
brother kim,
wow..nice sharing...i can feel the emotions of ur friend na ftw na ffl parents...hirap nun..just like some of my co yfc who stayed even if their parents are now ffl.. mahirap sa kanila un, pero kung tatanungin mo sila bakit sila nag stay? kasi di nila nakitang umalis... pero may mga kaibigan din ako ffl na din kasi ffl parents..pero saludo pa din ako sa knila kasi gusto lng nila makilala pa ang Diyos...lets pray for everyone...
ako nga din, im quite sad thinking the tito's and tita's na dati nagmamano ka sa kanila..then fellow yfc na pareho kayong venue at nag worship ng sabay..then suddenly....wala na..feeling of bitterness that can lead to anger...im trying to control my emotions...
pero eto ung nakikita ko sa huli...someday....magiging ok din lahat..either magkakasundo na at masayang nang exist ang dalawa..or mag unite na ulet...im excited for that moment..sana lahat tayo..we still pray for it...maybe not now..but someday....
God bless cfc and ffl!!!
ace rafols
yfc palawan/west b mla
On Humility;
Truly great men are humble. They do not despise anyone.They do not try to crush others or dominate over them. They do not extol themselves above others.They know that the liner would be rediculous if it boasted of its large size in comparison with the tugboat, for it hardly occupies more place in the ocean and is equally at its mercy.
The proud man has only to search his heart at the end of each week, to examine his thoughts and desires, actions and purpose.If he be at all realistic, he will not more boast of what he thinks is his own self-acquired greatness.
O my God , teach me to be really humble. To know my limitations, weakness and frailties. To realize that without the help of your grace I can do nothing good.,, AMEN
We support the IC all the way...
God bless us all.
Ben-Ellen Bernabe, CFC Holland
Raul- Lani Libot, CFC Holland
Bong - Bing Libot, CFC Dusseldorf
The Army needed should be like that of Gideon's, yong mga matapang lang huwag isama yong sa umpisa palang takbo na o reklamo na! Kakahiya kay Lord! HAPPY 27th year pala!
Thank you Brethren (Te, 2k2k, et al)!
CD, by their words, I think the "Brave285++" are deeply inspired!
2k2k, if we enter your name as the 295th, and include about three others who were inadvertently missed at the initial count because they used aliases like yours, then we are just about "GIDEON'S 300"!!!
Onward Christian Soldiers!!!
Joni,
What I mean about my comment "battle battle, infantry whatsoever" was that of a war and military terminlogies.
Gihilasan lang ko sa mga terminology, it's war like. Are we not supposed to be Peacemakers.
I agree, may mga tao, tapang lang sa umpisa peru Pang gulat ra diay.
Mayroon din kasabihan diba, Ang iro kusog mo paghot DILI kamao ma maak. (Ang asong malakas tumahol hindi marunong kumagat).
Mas maayo pag hilom kay banghag/paak dayon.
Mas maigi pang tahimik at pag actual na Bumibira diba?
Nag sign up na ako. Ako lang peru tahimik lang ang iba sa amin, isang cluster din kami. So, Your count will not become accurate.
I think maski sa ibang area, bloggers lang at ang bumisita dito ang nag sign up peru yung iba through our leaders na lang.
Tsaka bro, puede bang gawin mo na lang simple English ang mga comments mo, sobrang malalim eh Di ko Kasabot sa tanan. Hangyo lang ning ako.
I may remain anonymous here but I tell that I am not anonymous sa emails ko kay Frank.
Sometimes mas maayo diretso sa tao diba Hindi dinadaan sa dito sa Blog.
para tayong tumatahol sa buwan dito, hindi marinig ni General.
So what battle you want to happen?
Well wait for IC to act on it, then support all the way kung anong kailangan nila.
As I said, Count us in. You dont need to know how many of us.
2k2k,
Mga maingay nasa unahan, ang mga tahimik nasa likod.
Bottle of Mactan! Kahinumdom paka sa sining Binisaya? ha ha ha..Tama ang mga sabaan maoy ipauna para panghinadlok! He he he! God bless you!
Kailangan rin palang Kitchen Force! Isama na mga mahina loob para taga pagsaing ng kanin..he he he
2k2k,
Pahibaw-a ang mga taga FFL diha sa inyong lugar nga ug mahimo gani ning kaso, posibli nga silang tanan maapil. Mahimo silang defendants.
Huna-hunaa nga kaniadto, ang CFCFI foundation ni sa CFC. Ang opisyales ini mao ra sab ang sa CFC. Sa ato pa, ang IC lang ang dunay tinuod nga awtoridad para mag file sa SEC nga buhi-on ug usab ang CFCFI.
Unya nag resign na man si Frank sa IC niadtong Feb 2007. Unsa pa may awtoridad niya nga mag file siya sa SEC? Klaro, di ba, igsoon?
Ang filing ra ba ni Frank, klaro kaayo nga gihimo niya ni para sa FFL. Kung mao gani na, maabut gani ni sa kaso, and tibook FFL ang defendants. Ug mapildi sila, hasta ang ilahang personal assets puedeng makuha. Unongan pa ba nila si Frank?
TE-Germany
USING MILITARY TERMS IN “CALLING TO ARMS”
CD:
You may as well define this “CALL TO ARMS” sooner than later. I am so sorry if by making the count and using war-related (“armed” confrontation) terms to highlight it, the “spirit ” of this call has become discordant, particularly because the parallel “military” terms I used in order to drum up support have made it sound too-“warlike” for brothers/sisters like Anonymous up there. I myself have also started feeling discouraged by the reproof from that corner at this “mobilization stage”. (This is only a “feeling”, but I must confess that it does hurt to be advised that what we are doing is just a “battle battle” and that and the counting was to be discontinued – because by showing the actual statistics, I really implied that more bravehearts were needed to sign up, even as it clearly positively showed that more of those who handle “field command from sector heads down to the household heads” are a solid 50% of the total responses from the “leader category”.)
I have assumed that the premises for the “call to arms” have been very clearly laid down by the IC itself when it alerted everyone that the period of being still was over, and requested the CFC faithful to support the legal battle for the CFC name. That is why, like this blog, I also thought that every CFC faithful must mark it, “roll up his sleeves”, and sign up.
CD, I did the counting of my own volition primarily to help provide “insights” or “indicators”. I am very sorry for the negative effects it has created. I thought I did come clearly across when, knowing the limitations of the “process” of calling people to arms through this blog, I made these caveats on the “statistics”:
- some names were only aliases, and although counted, about three were not during the early tally;
- some of those signing up – even if counted as individual entries – could represent many other members, like Anonymous’ members in his/her cluster, and
- more names were “collectively registered” when the respective area heads signed up their support directly to the IC.
Furthermore, I did correct myself about that observation on the significance of the data showing 50% of the respondent-leaders are those having command of the CFC “infantry” (sorry, this “military” term” is certainly the convenient equivalent of the CFC couple-members belonging to the households, units, chapters, clusters, and sectors) shortly after a wrong interpretation. I hope this is not lost on the Anonymous Visayan blogger who asked me to be clearer and more direct to the point. ((Kita ra man diay kani, brod/sis, ulaw ko sa imo da. Gapaningkamotan baya nako nga ma straight akong sentence. Sige lang, nahibawo baya ko nga uban na ta. Apil diay TE-Germany, Bisdak pud! Kuwan ra man gud…numero unta. Pero, ok lang kay naa man diay kuno “kitchen force”, he-he! … Since I will now discontinue any reference to the statistical number of CFC “warriors” responding here, I wish to inform that I will send to CD the excel file of the tally I made. Very sorry once more for the “disturbance” it created - I sincerely wish part of it was positive, though.)
I trust this has been a fair response. I lift to God Almighty the absolution of Bro/Sis Anonymous, and the other brethren perhaps, for the hurt or negative feelings my entries on the “call to arms” have evoked, as I also lift this personal prayer:
“Lord, God, I pray that I will keep burning my resolve to do, to be, and to fight as a true CFC member, whether I sign up here in this blog or anywhere; whether or not I come face to face with an FFL issue or person; and whether or not my daily reaction as such resounds loud enough to be counted or remains a silent, private, personal commitment deep in my heart. Amen.”
jonitanitayturin,
Kapatid, you don't need to apologize for doing what your heart thought was right. Honesty is something we never have to regret even if it hurts others.
Bro, when we took literature in high school we learned that tools like hyperbole and such are there to drive a point clearer. Sometimes we do have to exagerate for us to be understood. Using military terms made it easier and clearer to present the issues.
We all know the context kapatid. None of us here entertain illusions that we have suddenly become soldiers. We are a peaceful and loving community. That's who we are. And we will do who we are, military terms regardless. How else should we accept that we sing songs like "born into a battle" and "Fight the good fight of Faith"?
Ituloy mong ginawa mo bro. Having the stats gives us all some rudimentary measure of the response.
God bless.
TE-Germany
we fully trusted IC on the wisdom they have.. go go defend the good name of CFC
Manuel & Amy Ballares
CFC-Palawan
Paolo Ballares
YFC
Yman Ballares
KFC
The Lord has a lot of humor as the typhoon dubbed as frank has really a relevance. The Lord did not want a CFC double celebration as the typhoon lashes metro manila at 8am today. The Lord has a wonderful message to THEM. GOD BLESS CFC and the IC. HAPPY 27TH ANNIVERSARY.
before we all go to bed tonight, let us offer a prayer for our brothers and sisters who have been affected by typhoon frank. more than 300,000 individuals were displaced. let us pray that the flood waters recede, electricity be restored, food and water supply reach the affected families, and homes be rebuilt.
Since it is expected that our own brethren in CFC, including those who actively blog here, can make contrary views relative to the “Call to Arms”, we hope to keep the differences of opinions as civil as possible. After all, we are not our enemies; instead, it is the evil in all those who want to disown, or else have already disowned and left CFC for FFL, and yet insist on using the name CFC.
Joni,
I never said to stop. Taposin natin 'to. Maski harapharapan sa General.
Suggestion lang 'yon ug mahimo lang ba, ie. to use other terms other than the military war terminologies.
I suggested coz some members mawalan ng gana.
Alam natin that until now may members na ayaw sa ganito, that they prefer to be still look at the result of the survey.
Peace bro.
Again, we will support the IC all the way on this.
"THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE"
Brothers and sisters, open your eyes, and listen to "The
Holy Spirit" Let's go forward, let's not degrade ourselves by reacting to the mud-slinging of the other group. Instead let's pray for them. We support the IC all the way. Is the letter from Vatican not enough to support our claim for the CFC name?
CFC- Edmonton, Alberta
"‘O Father, give us the humility which realizes its ignorance, admits its mistakes, recognizes its need, welcomes advice, accepts rebuke. Help us always to praise rather than to criticize, to sympathize rather than to discourage, to build rather than to destroy, and to think of people at their best rather than at their worst. This we ask for thy name’s sake.’ (Prayer of William Barclay, 20th century)” – Quoted from “Daily Reading and Meditation”, June 23,2007 (http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/jun23.htm)
We are defending our NAME. Kung bago ka, better get out. Kung CFC ka, "praise rather than criticize... sympathize rather than discourage." Kung FFL ka, kasali ka sa kaso. Walang ifs, walang buts, either you are in or you are out.
kami nakapag celebrate ng 27th anniversary.. kahit basa kaming lahat nakangiti pa rin at masaya.. hindi rin kami natakot kay frank eh..
yung iba dyan kahit maaraw nakasimagot eh...
Si Tto Frank sa Marikina Sports Complex, binagyo din pero di naman nabasa nang ulan na tulad nyo...
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kaya kayo binabagyo sa Anniversary nyo eh, FRANK pa ang alan nang bagyo...ayaw nyo kasing makinig kay Tto Frank
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Posted by Anonymous to In Defense Of The Real CFC at June 23, 2008 9:20 AM
kami nakapag celebrate ng 27th anniversary.. kahit basa kaming lahat nakangiti pa rin at masaya.. hindi rin kami natakot kay frank eh..
yung iba dyan kahit maaraw nakasimagot eh...
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Posted by johnpaul to In Defense Of The Real CFC at June 23, 2008 10:23 AM
MGA KAPATID, LET US REFRAIN FROM POSTING COMMENTS LIKE THESE TWO ABOVE. HINDI NAKAKATULONG ANG MGA GANITO, SA HALIP AY BAKA MAKA-AKIT PA NG GULO. ISIPIN NYO, PAANO KUNG TAYO ANG NASA LUGAR NG NASA KABILA, DI BA?
LOVE ONE ANOTHER!
thanks momoy for the reminder!
rain is good! it washes away dust and dirt. it refreshes and allows one to cool down. it also allow seeds to be watered and grow!
kaya wag kang sisilong at matakot sa ulan!
Momoy Love kita!
Anonymous na taga kabila.. mahirap man pero kailangan kitang mahalin!
Salamat JohnPaul! yan ang dapat mong gawin kasi combination nang pangalan ni John at Paul ang alan mo...unless member ka nang Beatles...
kahit na sino pang john paul ang naiisip mo.. ito ang sa iyo
All my loving, I will send to you
All my loving, darling I'll be TRUE!
All my loving, All my loving
Woo, all my loving, I will send to you
kaya mo yon?
To Anonymous FFL,
mabuti naman po at hindi kayo nabasa. i am CFC but i was praying for your activities as well.
i dont subscribe that you hold your anniversary yesterday but since nandyan na yan, what i did was pray for your community na sana hindi din kayo magkasakit at sana hindi kayo masyadong mabasa.
admittedly, kami po ay nabasa sa Luneta nung Saturday. pero sabi nga ng iba, masaya po kami. may libre pang ice cream dun sa mamang sorbetero na mabait. i went with my kids with us. yes, nabasa din sila kahit na may payong kami. pero nag-enjoy naman kaming sama-sama sa ulan. salamat sa mga comments mo na para kaming basang sisiw. i wont take it against you.
yung lang brod. mabuhay ka!
Pakilala ka kapatid.
for the past 3-4 years i bring them to the anniversary and other big gatherings of CFC. nag-eenjoy naman sila bro.
and dont worry, they did their homework yesterday. salamat sa concern mo. i hope your children are well also (if you do have kids).
God bless you and me.
minsan si jim/robert kasama ko din
You need cooling,
I'm not fooling.
I'm gonna send you,
Back to schooling.
Way down inside,
Brother you need it.
I'm gonna give you my love,
I'm gonna give you my love.
Wanna whole lotta love.
you need loving bro!
Please don't let ONE anonymous commenter who can't even identify himself break the love and support we are pouring in this entry. Lets keep up the good work guys.
Tama mga bro. Ignore the comments of the anonymous KSP. Don't let him spoil the joy and blessings we're enjoying right now.
God bless to all.
Lets keep it civil guys, don't take the bait.
God bless us all, and a wonderful anniversary it was!
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We stand behind CFC-IC all the way. Here in U.S.A. identity theft is a crime. Frank Padilla's meaning of "Restoration" is restoring what he lost when he left CFC.
Paul Estaris
West Palm Beach, Florida
C.D.,
buti na lang po at minoderate nyo na ulit itong comments. it was getting out of hand for a while. grabe mag-provoke si Anonymous! pero keep your cool, mga kapatid!
mahirap mang mahalin, eh anak pa rin sya ng Diyos.
basta, mahal ko kayong lahat! at mahal tayo ng Diyos pare-pareho!
Never pass up a chance to keep your mouth shut.
Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent,
and discerning if he holds his tongue.
Proverbs 17:28 (NIV)
Good afternoon :)
It welcomes us back home
Prayer... for the Holy Father, (Pope Benedict XVI) ... and for World Peace & Tranquility!
"Our Father," "Hail Mary" and "Glory Be"
Now that my family and I have been based outside the Phils for more than five years now, we've not been able to attend the June Anniversary celebrations except once. But when we were still there lagi kami present at lagi naman talagang umuulan, sa Rizal football stadium, sa Quezon Mem circle, sa Military grounds (camp Aquinaldo ba?) sa Marikina, Riverbanks, sa Luneta etc. etc Although, medyo "bagyo" nga lang this time, but I believe those who attended would rank this as one of the most memorable anniversary ever if not the most memorable. Sayang nga we were not there.
Anyway, I just remembered one anti-catholic poster in another forum where he was ascribing the regular typhoons hitting the Phils as a sign of God's wrath kasi di pa raw nag coconvert maraming Pinoy na maging "born-again". He-he-he, obviously the guy didn't know the simple fact that there's always been tropical storms in the country looooonnnnggg before the first religion was even introduced in the islands.
Pilosopo Tasyo
Basang sisiw?
Praise the Lord for He lifts up the lowly, the meek, the humble!
Basang sisiw at nanginginig sa lamig?
Praise the Lord for that means we'll always be longing for the warmth under the wings and maternal care and guidance of our Holy Mother Church!
In a way, let us continue to be like "mga basang sisiw"!
Pilosopo Tasyo
Pilosopo Tasyo
Brothers & Sisters in CFC, huwag natin pansinin ang mga tao (Anonymous FFL or KSP) na gustong sirain an kaligayahan na naramdaman natin sa ating 27th anniversary sa Couples For Christ sa Luneta. Huwag natin silang patulan, hayaan natin sila sa gusto nilang gawin at sabihin. Nakita natin ang pagpapala sa atin ng Mahal na Panginoon kasama ang Mahal nating Ina na si Maria para sa lahat sa atin, tumila ang ulan noong tayo ay nag-Lord's Day, bumalik ang sound system pagkatapos nating mag-rosaryo, pinigilan ng mapulang ulap ang malakas na ulan habang tayo ay magmimisa, at sumilip ang maliwanag na buwan noong umaawit ang lahat "Walk On..." at nakapag praise fest pa tayo bago umuwi ang lahat. Naka-uwi din tayong lahat bago humangin ng malakas at bumuhus ang ulan. Ang lahat ng mga pangyayari na iyan ay hindi masasabing nagkataon lamang kundi ang lahat ng iyan ay pagpapakita ng presensiya at pagmamahal ng Diyos sa ating lahat, sa ating komyunidad ng Couples For Christ. Ipakita nalang din natin sa ating mga kapatid na bumabatikos, naninira sa atin na isinasabuhay natin ang ating Covenant, isinasabuhay natin ang ating kultura sa CFC, at dinadala natin sa lahat ng oras at pagkakataon ang pangalan ni Kristo Hesus. Mahalin natin sila at ipagdasal natin sila. Humayo tayo at ipagpatuloy natin ang misyon na ipinagkatiwala sa atin ng Panginoon Diyos. God bless CFC, God bless our families.-Robert & Cynthia Maranan (CFC Manila West B Sector)
Hi CFC!
Reminding everyone, we are asked by the IC to do three days of quiet and prayer (June 23-24-25) in thanksgiving for the Lord's Love and Mercy.
I suggest that we include also our prayer petitions for the Lord to ease the pains of those who experienced loss of lives of love ones, property, hope, etc. due to ill effects of the typhoon.
So balik dasal na muna tayo mga kapatid. Kalimutan o ialay na lang sa Diyos yung mga bumabatikos sa atin. Mas malaki pa ang problema sa labas ng CFC dahil sa bagyo.
So let's pray brethren!
It is our first time (My wife and I) to attend the ANNIVERSARY…
Though we didn’t finish the event…
I feel the Love of GOD through our Brothers and Sisters,
who keep on smiling, sharing the Joy, keeps on greeting.
And you can see the happiness and peace on everyone….
It was a SUPER GREAT experience…
I thank GOD who brings us there safe and sound.
I thank IC…
I thank our Sector Head…
I thank our Chapter Head…
I thank our Unit Head…
I thank our Household Head…
WEST C / Upper Banlat… Thank You…
Sarap kumanta sa ulan…
ang sarap mabasa…
kanta pa…
“The Joy of the LORD is my Strength”
He he he. Pareng johnpaul, naasar ka ba ni anonimus afli-afla? Balita ko napuno naman nila at nagkasya sila sa kanilang 27th (more like fortnights at hindi years) anibersari selebs na ginawa sa MacDo sa tapat ng Marikina Sports... Kaya naman pala hindi nabasa.
Okay class, let's sing...
Halina't sumayaw sa ilalim ng araw
Maghawak-hawak ng kamay
Isigaw nang sabay-sabay
Kapayapaan ...
ayos laang...
an opportunity to practice love!
Love you CFC
Love you FFL (kahit mahirap)
Any word on whether Frank "You must obey the Bishops even if they have not issued a command, only a recommendation" Padilla is planning to abide by the Vatican Cardinal's decree that only CFC may use the CFC name?
Or is he still insisting on circumventing the Church by going to secular authorities?
I'm afraid FAP will accuse typhoon "Frank" as "veering away" from CFC-IC's Saturday anniversary & storming his FFL-FI Sunday Anniversary, which on the second thought, very TRUE this time around.
Nobody can question Divine Intervention, not even the "self-annointed" one.
Patawad Panginoon, patawad...
To Anonymous KSP and other FFL who follow this blogspot,
Thank God hindi kayo nabasa ng ulan. God granted the prayers of most of us, that you will be safe during your celebration.
For us, during our celeb at Luneta, it was a wonderful day for me and our unit in SFC and for everyone attended!
It rained, yes. Actually it rained pretty hard! However, it didn't matter! Rain cleanses the earth. For a little while, nababawasan ng polusyon ang mundo everytime it rains. That's why in an old song of an old revolutionary band here in the Philippines, during the 70's, (Asin) they said, "Sana sa aking pagpanaw sana ay tag-ulan".
I felt energized though i was a little cold during the celeb. There was a part of the day, when we started hearing sounds again (there was still a little rain), that i just looked at the people there. Most have umbrellas and others none, (like me), i was so amazed by the conviction of all to stay and continue on celebrating. Not because it was an anniversary led by our IC, but i could see the joy that God planted in the hearts of the members through their faces. A genuine Love for Christ! Simply Amazing!
Let's continue to pray and hope that sooner or later, this problem will end. Let's also pray for our brethren on FFL to continue looking at God and serving Him. I'm still hoping and praying for a United CFC someday.
God bless us all! Love you All (including FFL)!
(Singit lng po...pls pray for me, i've been praying for a long time now, and this now the time. I would propose to my GG this coming 29th, on our anniversary. I wish to marry her soon...thanks in advance!)
Kim Lopez
SFC West-A
Mga Kapatid sa Pinas,
Will you post about the Front Page News in Inquirer on June 25 "Uncoupled" CFC Battle OVer Name.
Thank you,
MAx
To Kim,
I will pray for you as you prepare for your (secret?) proposal. Sana hindi nagbabasa ang iyong GG dito... hahahaha...
Magkamaganak kaya tayo?
God Bless you Bro! May your union be blessed, like ours....
Danny, WB
Tried to go through ab-iliad's suggested web address to access Bro Max's query on the Inquirer article, pero wala naman doon. So, I have it here reprinted below. OK lang ba, CD? God Bless.
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‘Uncoupled’ CFC battle over name
By Kristine L. Alave
PDI, June 25, 2008
TWO CATHOLIC LAY GROUPS that sprang from a split in Couples for Christ last year are battling each other for the use of the CFC name.
The fight over the CFC brand between the CFC-Foundation for Family and Life (CFC-FFL), which is headed by Frank Padilla, and the CFC-International Council (CFC-IC), which works with Tony Meloto and Gawad Kalinga, came to a head early this month after the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) lifted the 2003 revocation order on the use of the name Couples for Christ Foundation Inc..
Meloto and Padilla, both founding members of the country’s biggest Catholic lay groups, stepped down from the board of CFC last year over debates on the group’s directions.
The SEC issued the revocation order in 2003 after the CFC failed to comply with certain registration requirements.
Since the SEC order was issued early this month, the two organizations have issued strongly worded statements, both claiming the right to use the name on their websites.
Padilla, in a letter to CFC-FFL members, said they had the right to bear the CFC name – not CFC-IC – as CFCFFL was the one recognized by the Catholic Church and the state.
“On June 5, the Philippines’ Securities and Exchange Commission, on our petition, issued an order reviving the original CFC Foundation established in 1984, the Couples for Christ Foundation Inc. (CFCFI). This means that we now have legal right to the name CFC and this is a prior right to that of CFC-GK-IC, with its corporation of CFCGMFI (Couples for Christ Global Mission Foundation Inc.) established in 1993,” Padilla said in his letter posted on the CFC-FFL website.
Regonized by the Church
Padilla added that many members of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP), including its president, Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, and Commission on the Laity chair, Bishop Gabriel Reyes, recognize his group.
“Even from the moral and ethical standpoint, we can and should use the name CFC. The Church considers me the founder of CFC, and in the ecclesiology (the nature and organization of the Church) of new movements, the charism (grace given by God) resides on the founder. Where the founder is, there is the charism. Where the charism is, there is the authentic CFC,” Padilla said.
He added that the CFC-IC could use the CFC name “as long as they strive to not let go of what it means to be truly CFC.”
The CFC-IC, on the other hand, said it would continue using the name CFC “because we ARE Couples for Christ.”
The group, led by Jose Tale, stressed that it had been registered as Couples for Christ Global Mission Foundation Inc. since 1993 and thus, had every legal right to use the CFC name.
“We have not lost the name and we do not intend to lose it. We still retain Vatican and CBCP recognition as a private international association of the lay faithful. We are still mandated, by virtue of the Vatican statutes, to proceed confidently with our mission and to fulfill our role as evangelizers and missionaries,” the CFC-IC said on its website.
‘We’ll fit it’
The CFC-IC said the SEC decision was not final and executory and that it would fight for the right to use the CFC appellation.
“We have solid grounds to question the SEC decision. The CFC was not given the opportunity to be heard even if we had a continuing objection to the revival of the inactive foundation submitted to the SEC as early as July 2007. Also, the alleged bases for the petition for revival are highly questionable,” the CFC-IC said.
Tagbilaran Bishop Leonardo Medroso, chair of the Episcopal Commission on Canon Law, said it was a good thing the groups had sought legal clarification on the right to use the CFC name to settle the issue with finality.
Social work vs values
Padilla left the CFC to form his own breakaway group in August 2007 after voicing his opposition to Gawad kalinga, a low-cost housing program which Meloto promoted.
Padilla reportedly did not approve of Gawad Kalinga’s policy of accepting donations from companies that market artificial family planning and other values opposed to CFC. He also called for more vigorous evangelization efforts from CFC members.
Meloto, on the other hand, said the CFC should be involved in nation-building. He defended the Gawad Kalinga project, saying it has improved the lives of the poor.
In March, 2008, the Vatican’s Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko stepped into the conflict and said the CFC would have to refocus its energies from social work to values-building.
I support the international council
Andrew Chua
GK Worker
SFC - Cambodia
Frank Padilla is trying to build himself and his break-away community upon the ruins of the real CFC. We can not allow this to happen. The IC have my full support.
Diczen Young
Chapter Head, SB-8E
Magdaong, Muntinlupa
Bro. Frank wants to be the founder, like Bro. Mike of El Shaddai, Bro. Manalo of INC,Bro. E. Villanueva of JIL, Bro. Eli of DD, etc. to be in written in Phil. Religions History.
CFC is unique, Christ is its founder.St.Peter never claimed that he is the founder of the Catholic Church. Annointment is given temporarily not for the lifetime. In terms of Church Teachings, only one human is infallible " Only the Pope in Rome"!!! I am not aware of any Pope who took with him few members then restored the Catholic Church because She veered away? Though there were not so good Pope before, nobody was so righteous enough to restore the Catholic Church? We are not Catholic for Family & Life but "Church of the poor" which generally encompasses everything in human life!!
Re "mislead Father", I think the better adjective to describe him is clueless. I have high respect for brothers in the religious communities but this person did not realize what he got himself involved in. If he allowed himself to be used by a ghost writer who is evidently very biased, then i pray that he go take a closer look on his calling and just concentrate on that road.
Furthermore, the local paper posted his article in the opinions page which is titled, Faith. The paper's editors should have posted it instead under Politics.
Instead of reading his article, I suggest reading Fr. Roy's article about a Life of Prayer where you can learn something good and valuable.
I just want to remind everyone that the SEC order to revive CFCFI was contingent on FAP submitting papers showing that CFCFI was operating in 2007. See the SEC order posted in this blog. FAP has 30 days to submit the 2007 audited financial statements of CFCFI as well as a list of projects certified by the mayor of the place where the projects were conducted. SEC requires this as evidence that (1) CFCFI was indeed operating in 2007 and (2) that CFCFI funds were used in accordance with its statutes.
So I guess the deadline is July 12 since the order came out on June 12.
I am holding my breath on whether FAP will really submit these papers. If he does then he gives evidence that he operated CFCFI in 2007, a foundation that belongs to CFC, even though he had resigned from the IC in Feb 2007 and therefore had no more authority. Assuming of course that the papers are genuine, meaning CFCFI was really operated by him in 2007. If CFCFI was not operating, I do not see how he can come up with genuine financial statements. And if he doesn't submit (to avoid sinking deeper into a legal morass), the SEC order of June 12 becomes invalid. Does he have a way out?
TE
Binasa ko ang article sa Negros Chronicle. Ito ang opinion ng isang manunulat, pero taliwas naman sa mga totoong kaganapan sa ating community. Ano ang totoo kung bakit nagkaroon ng split:
Kung walang iginawad na Ramon Magsaysay award kay Bro. Tony Meloto at sa Couples for Christ, through Frank Padilla; walang asawang nainggit at kaanak na sumulat para manira sa pamilya ni Bro. Tony; lider na marunong magpakumbaba at sumusunod sa turo o teachings ng CFC, hindi tayo nagkaroon ng split. Alam ba ito ng pari na sumulat sa Negros Chronicle? Alam din kaya ng ni Fr. Gammy na ang Couples for Christ ay nagmula o nabuo dahil sa Ligaya ng Panginoon at ang pangalang CFC ay ibinigay ni Bro. Vic Gutierez. Si Bro. Frank ay isa lamang sa 16 couples na sumama sa unang CLP ng LPN. Sana ay magbasa si Fr. Gammy dito sa defendingCFC blog para malaman niya ang mga katotohanan kung bakit nagkaroon ng split.
I thank God for allowing me to be a part of Couples for Christ. I grow in my faith because of the 7 pillars of CFC and GK is one of them. We never neglect our formations and/or teachings. It's a wrong notion that we are neglecting the spiritual side of our community.
Those who attack GK or giving a wrong impression about our work for the poor, please stop it. We, members of the one true Couples for Christ, will never abondone our beloved community.
We believe in our mission and vision and CFC, under the International Council, is a gift from God.
God bless us all.
Larry
If Frank is able to present a document resembling the 2007 CFC statement, he'd be digging a hole much deeper than the one he's currently in.
Note that Frank already submitted a "2006 Audited Financial Statement", one of 7 documents he already submitted in the petition to reinstate the CFC-FI name. Ostensibly, he also plans to present a 2007 FS, otherwise, the SEC order will be for naught. It will take a mighty legal fancy footwork, if it is ever at all possible. If Frank realizes the folly of it all, he may yet decide not to push thru with the CFC-FI reinstatement, to avoid the legal nightmare that could prove to be a woefully self-destructive move. Could they be in rue of the move by now? The next two weeks will tell, lets see what gives. Meanwhile, the work of "restoration" goes on? Is this all part of it? Whether or not Frank decides to push thru with the reinstatement, the die is already cast - he already submitted 7 public documents to a government institution to support his petition - this will be subject to intense legal scrutiny. That act alone, regardless of whether the order is pursued to become final and executory, should be challenged by itself. If he submits more documents, well, yes the hole might just get deeper. I wonder if they could get any lawyer willing to take their case. But first they must understand the law of unintended consequences.
TE said: I am holding my breath on whether FAP will really submit these papers. If he does then he gives evidence that he operated CFCFI in 2007, a foundation that belongs to CFC, even though he had resigned from the IC in Feb 2007 and therefore had no more authority. Assuming of course that the papers are genuine, meaning CFCFI was really operated by him in 2007. If CFCFI was not operating, I do not see how he can come up with genuine financial statements. And if he doesn't submit (to avoid sinking deeper into a legal morass), the SEC order of June 12 becomes invalid. Does he have a way out?
I believe if he does submit such documents the resulting mess could be even more embarrassing than the earlier attempt to sell a property he did not own.
Why?
I can't seem to think of a way that any such documents matching the above description could in fact be truthful.
To all! Please see below my message to the Negros Chronicle and the reply.
Hoping for a healthy exchange of opinion with Fr. Tulabing.
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Re: Fr. Gammy Tulabing's article on CFC
Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:09 PM
From: "JayDejaresco" 'elmarjay@pldtdsl.net'
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To: 'suppressed'
Hello Raul. I will forward your message to the editorial desk and see to it that this reaches Fr. Tulabing.
Thanks.J
----- Original Message -----
From: raul aclan
To: elmarjay@pldtdsl.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Fr. Gammy Tulabing's article on CFC
Can you give my e-mail address to Fr. Tulabing 'suppressed'? His piece on CFC and GK then glorifying FFL lacks a lot of information. I believe he is not well verse with the full story. If he could only check and search the websites and consult the different opinion on the information available, It would have been different. For one, Frank Padilla is not the founder of CFC. He is the founder of FFL. The founder of CFC is Fr. Herb Schneider and Vic Gutierrez of Ligaya Ng Panginoon. I am more than willing to accept any messages he will send me.
Raul Aclan
From Legalese: "I wonder if they could get any lawyer willing to take their case. But first they must understand the law of unintended consequences."
I think his government "connects" could "lawyer" him through. However, any elected official helping him will definitely LOSE our VOTES!!!
In Singapore, we are still behind the IC to defend CFC.
Although there are less than 5 couples joined FFL, CFC is still intact here in SG.
May God bless us all including our FFL brothers and sisters.
By the way what is the meaning of FFL? Is it Frank Followers Ltd.
if my memory serves me right they have as members (elders i'm guessing) a good corporate law practitioner and they also have a long list of CPAs and auditors with
Not sure if you all have seen this.
RAC
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--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Easter Group 'eastergroup@gmail.com' wrote:
From: Easter Group 'eastergroup@gmail.com'
Subject: BEATING OUR SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES
To:
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 12:05 PM
BEATING OUR SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES
Birthrights are normally vested by virtue of relationships that are passed on from generation to generation. In a more contemporary sense, and what political correctness could possibly dictate, rights and entitlements are also given by an authorized source. In the case of the use of the name of "Couples for Christ," a faith community anchored in being Christ centered as well as evangelistic and missionary, we go beyond the legal and the blood relations and ask the defining query: Who really has a birthright to the name in the context of being "for Christ?" Isn't Christianity an all-inclusive religion which welcomes "Gentile and Jew alike?" Did not Christ Himself talk about its inherent inclusivity when He categorically forbade excessive sectarianism when John complained to Him that the disciples saw someone casting out demons in His name and the man was told to stop his practices because he was not one of them? But Jesus said to him, "Do not forbid this man for he who is not against us is for us." Unless CFC/GK may think CFCFI/CFC-FFL works against this exhortation of Jesus Himself, how does one explain the almost excessive obsession of the former to prohibit others from using the name?
Thus, in a spate of releases that sadly advises its membership to go on a war footing with such slogans as "a call to arms," and exhorting the community to end its period of "being still," the CFC/GK may have just succeeded in bringing the might and force of the Praetorian army on CFCFI/CFC-FFL with hammer and tongs and with all guns blazing simply because the latter was granted approval by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to revive the use of the name Couples for Christ Foundation,Inc. In what promises to be a protracted legal battle, we have been brought to court by CFC/GK to insist on its exclusive use of the name, while it does not set its radar screens on questioning 5 to 6 other entities registered with the SEC (other than CFCFI/CFC-FFL) which also uses the name Couples for Christ. Again, how does one fathom the inherent wisdom of going through such great lengths insisting on a common birthright vested on all of Christendom anyway?
CFC/GK may have missed the point when it talks about going legal by force of circumstances. It may have forgotten that it began the legalities attached to the use of the name by questioning our application to the use of the name CFC-FFL.
Secondly, the revival of CFCFI is no underhanded plot. CFCFI became inactive for sometime precisely because it allowed CFC Global Mission Foundation, Inc. to carry on its mission. But now that CFC Global has veered away from the life and mission it was supposed to pursue, CFCFI now has every right to restore the eroded anchors of the life and mission and revive the original spirit which guided the community to put up, by virtue of " prior right," CFCFI.
Thirdly, it may be timely to reiterate that the Bishops have approved of CFCFI/CFC-FFL and the Vatican has no objection to the use of the name as long as the local bishops approve.
Fourthly, even the original application for the use of CFC-FFL has not been rejected by the SEC.
Fifth, on June 14, 2008, CFC Founder Frank Padilla has gone on record, to wit: "With regard to our brethren in CFC/GK, we do not intend to do to them what they have been doing to us. For the sake of peace and eventual reconciliation, we do not intend to prevent them from using the name "CFC" for as long as they strive not to let go of what it means to be truly CFC." This simply means heeding the call of the Bishops and the Vatican in their past pronouncements.
Sixth, we have always proposed creative unity and synergy, one big CFC with 2 separate branches, using the model of many religious organizations and congregations, but CFC/GK has steadfastly refused to take a serious look at this proposal.
Based on the above, CFCFI is in no fighting mood. We are for co-existence, not the annihilation of one at the expense of another. We have always striven to build bridges while the other side seems to be for burning them. We therefore reiterate our call to consider each other as brethren, hewn from the same stock, but with different callings. Let us live out the CFC Global theme of loving one another so that at the end, we are rewarded by God with Joy. We extend our hand of Peace because together we should "press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." (Phil. 3:13,14). "Together, let us beat our swords into plowshares" and never look back.
CFC-FFL
Hi All!
Received another message from the desk of Negros Chronicle if I want to write a reaction letter to Fr. Tulabing's.
Admittedly, I am lacking in literary skills if we can pull our resources together...it would be best. What you all say! Any taker.
Raul Aclan
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Re: Fr. Gammy Tulabing's article on CFC
Wednesday, July 2, 2008 4:09 AM
From: "Jay Dejaresco" 'xx' View contact details
To: "raul aclan"
Hi Raul.
You can write a reaction to Fr. Tulabing's article if you want.
Thanks,
J
Raul Aclan,
If you can wait, I can write a response.
Send me your email address thru deovolente7@gmail.com
God bless!!!
perhaps we could all collectively add our own responses to tito Raul's?
Reaction to Easter Group's Beating Swords into Plowshares:
Grabe na si Frank! Pagkatapos niyang i-attempt to destroy CFC by putting up a new group after separating from the main body (after resigning post-haste as a knee jerk response to Tony's resignation) he failed to register the new group as CFC-FFL. Then he makes sumbong sa Vatican to stop GK and its partners (na nag-veer, kuno). Nang pinagbawalan siya ng Cardinal not to use the CFC name, eh, binuhay niya ang pinatay niya (in 1993) na CFCFI at ngayon ay para bang benevolent na kapatid na nag-aalay ng peace pipe to CFC na inattempt niyang buwagin last year! At ngayon, CFC pa and pinalalabas niyang berdugo daw at ayaw makipagkawit-bisig! Haaay! Tataas ang BP ko dito sa dati nating kapatid at lider na si Frank! Hmmph! Makatulog na nga dahil nakakasawa na ang pag-gawa ng spin at kwentong kutsero ni Frank. Galing talaga niya mag-gawa ng spin. Di kaya DJ (spinner)siya sa other life?
sa edad nya ngayon... spinner pa nga ang tawag sa radio announcer noon...
spinner!
nagbago na pala tayo ng pangalan? nung una:
CFC-IC. then
CFC-GMFI. then
CFC-GK. then
CFC/GK (slash na ngayon).
may nagbabasa pa kaya ng mga pinapadala nila?
nililito yata tayo ah. Spinner/DJ nga! i hope yung "J" sa DJ ay hindi yung nag-betray kay Kristo.
My WHOLE FAMILY supports the IC. We will not allow the power-hungry group of Frank Padilla to steal away the name Couples for Christ nor destroy our group because this is the group whic led us to see the bright side of life and brought us back to the fold of the LORD.
If before we were into "risky" and more daring activities to defend our principles, we will be ready to do more risky and daring acts if needed and called.
Catalino B. Bobon, Jr.
Cluster Head, Cluster 3, North Sector, Leyte Province
Reaction to
BEATING OUR SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES
I grow tired of FAP reasoning, but I will never tire standing up to him. If given the opportunity to face him, i would say...
You continue to put the blame that CFC has veered away... But the battle for the name is not about spirituality. If you want to claim royalties on holiness to justified why you caused so much strife then I would continue to let you shout to the world that
"You are holier than all of us and you are the only chosen one to restore CFC"
But to protect the name CFC is mostly about rules and laws that govern our society.
"Give what is to Caesar that is to Caesar... give to God what is to God."
If you claim to be the holy restorer so be it... but we support our IC proclaiming that you have no Legal Right on our community's name.
I remind you again that it is not about CFC's spirituality but more about the laws and rules that govern our society.
Let us continue to push this in the courts and let the law decide who has the rights to the name. Frank, I know you are nervous because the court is not easily swayed by your spiritual reasoning. Sooner or later, if you win or CFC wins let us put an end to this.
We inherited this conflict (sin), fighting for the name, because our Elders choose to ignore FAP as he stole CFC from LNP. No body challenged FAP that what he did was wrong... but not this time Frank. The previous generation discerned not to correct you. Thanks to CD and his bloggers, we have a voice to tell you, GENERAL that you are naked (emperor's new clothes) and we will fight for the Name this time so that my sons (the next generation) would not have to inherit this conflict (sin).
To the one who proudly calls himself the "Keeper of the Charism":
I say, please keep the charism to yourself, all you want.
We will go and support the CFC-IC in all their spirit-filled decisions. Because we strongly believe that the CFC-IC are "SHARERS OF THE CHARISM", not just keepers.
While our generous God, through the Holy Spirit has bestowed upon all of us the true charism of CFC, who are we to just keep it. In fact, to retain this charism, we have to share it to ends of this world. And that, my friends, is what CFC-IC stand for - "SHARERS OF THE CHARISM."
God bless.
Nong umpisa, bago palang nag resign si Frank, ok pa siya! Kaya lang, nong nag- Audit ang bagong admin sa CFC, nagalit si Frank dahil Witch-hunting daw! Baka siguro yon rin ang bagong meaning nang Audit = Witch-hunting sa Harvard! At saka yong lumiliit ang kita nya sa Tithes dahil napunta daw sa GK ang pera ng mga members sa padugo nila? May bagong meaning rin yoN! VEERING AWAY the funds of CFC to GK! Di ba yon ang sabi niya na ang pera sa CFC napunta sa GK! Kaya hindi niya nabayaran utang! Ngayon? Bayad na Frank! Balik kana lumalaki na ang Tithes, sa CDO/MisOr lang, Half M monthly! Pwede na ring collateral ulit ng Loan sa RCBC! O ano? Balik na kayo! mga kapatid baka pati mga properties nyo ma Scam Din ..Kayo Lang! Joke na man kunti CD..God bless us all!
to sharers of the charism,
i agree with you bro/sis...100%
God bless IC
God bless CFC
May nag-banggit na rin lang ng tungkol sa ‘Audit’ dito, kwento ko na sa inyo ang narinig ko.
Dati si Nonong Contreras nag-‘Audit’ din ng finances ng CFC. Eh dahil nga napakalaki ng shortfall at maraming utang – nagging defensive is Frank.
So para hindi halata ang pagka pikon ng mga taong puedeng ma apekto sa ‘Audit’, nag taguyod ng Audit Committee. If I remember right miembro doon si Roland Nillas at Oland David – mga magagaling sa money matters kasi sila. Noong mga panahon na yun na may ‘Audit’ na ginagawa ang ‘Tekton Guild’ on CFC finances, hindi masyadong ‘close friends’ sila Nonong at Roland with Frank.
Hayaan ninyo, hanapin ko yung mga ‘Confidential sagutan Letters’ nila, baka iba sa inyo may kopya din niyan, eh, ilabas na ninyo. Huwag na kayong mahiya. (Anyway this pales in comparison sa nalabas na ‘Civil case’ against the Padilla couple over a botched land deal di bla?)
So meron ba kayong natatandaan na resulta ang mga kilos na iyon?
Wala diba? Ang alam lang natin, noon umalis na sila lahat ang naiwan sa atin eh may utang pala ang CFC ng 20.0M – na milagrong nilutas ni Lord thru the ‘One time, Big Time’ drive.
May result ba yung ‘One Time, Big Time’ – Yes! A resounding statement that CFC IS DEBT FREE on its 27TH Anniversary!
So advice sa mga current International Council members - - please be very transparent to members about the use of CFC Finances and if you are about to enter into any transaction that will endanger or stress the cash flows, please think twice, or seek approval of the Elders Assembly.
BY the way, cash flows don’t get awful not only on sudden unforeseen cash expenditure; they are slowly deteriorated over a period of time by seemingly regular small disbursements (like elegant meals for small meetings) until they become gargantuan amounts.
When we had a 20.0M shortfall, we in effect were under the curse of Mammon!
Let’s all keep watch we do not ever get to that situation again!
To Atty. Anonymous "Mga kapatid, FFL's swords-into-plowshares message is significant legal evidence..."
Praise God we have you with your God-given talent and "Solomonic" wisdom in the arsenal of CFC-IC.
I wish somebody from the otherside could rebut the points you raised in favor of the authentic CFC.
God bless and more Power from the Holy Spirit...
Mga kapatid, FFL's swords-into-plowshares message is significant legal evidence. Could someone please try to get an original copy of this.
Note that the message was signed CFC-FFL. Because it is thus signed, it is clear that the message is meant to be understood that all FFL members are behind this message.
Note, however, that CFC-FFL is an organization without any legal personality. Ironically the message itself affirms this by correctly stating that "... even the original application for the use of CFC-FFL has not been rejected by the SEC." Which is, of course, only half the truth. The SEC has also not approved their registration.
Here's the hook: Corporation Code of the Philippines: "Sec. 21. Corporation by estoppel. All persons who assume to act as a corporation knowing it to be without authority to do so shall be liable as general partners for all debts, liabilities and damages incurred or arising as a result thereof: Provided, however, That when any such ostensible corporation is sued on any transaction entered by it as a corporation or on any tort committed by it as such, it shall not be allowed to use as a defense its lack of corporate personality."
That means ALL FFL members will become respondents in any suit brought against FFL.
Their message also states: "CFCFI became inactive for sometime precisely because it allowed CFC Global Mission Foundation, Inc. to carry on its mission. But now that CFC Global has veered away from the life and mission it was supposed to pursue, CFCFI now has every right to restore the eroded anchors of the life and mission and revive the original spirit which guided the community to put up, by virtue of " prior right," CFCFI."
Note the first sentence. First, it constitutes an admission by FFL that CFC-GMFI is the entity charged with carrying on the mission and that CFCFI should become inactive. Section 40 of the Corporation Code regulates the sale or disposition of the assets of the corporation and states that "In non-stock corporations, where there are no members with voting rights, the vote of at least a majority of the trustees in office will be sufficient authorization for the corporation to enter into any transaction authorized by this section." The decision of the CFC Council in 1994 to continue the mission with CFC-GMFI and let CFCFI become dormant effectively transferred all assets, rights, franchises and goodwill of CFCFI to CFC-GMFI. FFL's message, as quoted above, admits this as well.
But FFL, in the next sentence assumes that CFCFI has every right to restore by virtue of prior right. This is so absurd as to be laughable. Here's 4 reasons why?
(1) CFCFI does not have any rights anymore. They have all been transferred by the board to CFC-GMFI in 1994. When CFCFI's registration was revoked in 2003, it lost its juridic personality and all its corporate powers and ceased to exist as a corporation. CFC-GMFI's ownership of all assets, rights and goodwill then became absolute. CFC-GMFI has been exercising this right exclusively for 18 years. Laches has worked in favor of CFC-GMFI. In the Philippine Blooming Mills case of 1988 (see G.R. No 71837, Philippine Supreme Court), the Supreme Court states "We have said in a number of cases that laches, in a general sense, means the failure or neglect, for an unreasonable and unexplained length of time, to do that which, by exercising due diligence, could or should have been done earlier. It is negligence or omission to assert a right within a reasonable time, warranting a presumption that the party entitled to assert it either has abandoned or declined to assert it. Public policy requires, for the peace of society, the discouragement of claims grown stale for non-assertion. Unlike the statute of limitations, laches does not involve mere lapse or passage of time but is principally an impediment to the assertion or enforcement of a right which has become under the circumstances inequitable or unfair to permit."
(2) FFL does not have the authority to judge whether CFC-GMFI has veered away from its mission, simply because they are not part of the CFC-GMFI organization or its regulatory reporting line. FFL is not a supervisory body with oversight powers. For CFC-GMFI this is the Vatican, which has never accused CFC-GMFI of veering away. FFL is, in a sense, a "competing organization." Whatever they say about the business of CFC-GMFI do not carry any weight and cannot impose standards of performance that CFC-GMFI is obliged to follow. FFL is not a standard-setting body on the rigthness or wrongness of an organization's direction. The most that they can do is give their own opinion.
(3) One man's decision to revive CFCFI is highly questionable because it was done with the intention of taking up again the original activities of the revoked entity which should have been a decision by a majority of the board. Since it was allowed to become dormant, and since its revocation in 2003, CFCFI has not had any board. This means the SEC lifting of the CFCFI revocation is the approval of the case of one person taking over the name of a defunct entity. See CA-G.R. SP NO. 92740, Supreme Court case re Filipino-Indian Chamber of Commerce. The resulting entity may have the same name as the old, defunct one, but is a totally different organization. It may still be called CFCFI but it is not the same CFCFI that went dormant in 1994. The "new" CFCFI is actually even younger than FFL. Insisting that it is the old CFCFI would require FFL to reconstitute the board, the majority of whom are not FFL members, if they can be found. Frank cannot, on his own, reduce the number of the board without approval from the SEC. But applying for such an approval requires a board resolution. And he can't appoint people there because they have to be elected by the members. And who are the members? For the old CFCFI, these would be the CFC members on 1994. Many of the FFL members today were not members then, so they can be disqualified. You see the impossibility of reconsituting the board? The only viable alternative is to have a new organization with an old name.
(4) FFL talks about "prior right." Further to (3) above, I refer you to G.R. No. 137592, Supreme Court case of 2001, ANG MGA KAANIB SA IGLESIA NG DIOS KAY KRISTO HESUS, H.S.K. SA BANSANG PILIPINAS, INC. petitioner, vs. IGLESIA NG DIOS KAY CRISTO JESUS, HALIGI AT SUHAY NG KATOTOHANAN, respondent. All FFL, a new organization, has taken taken over from the old defunct entity is the name - CFCFI. The "Couples for Christ" appellation belongs to CFC-GMFI by virtue of succession. It is CFC-GMFI that has the prior right to the name.
The reason why the International Council has not taken issue with the other 5 entities carrying the name CFC is exactly the same reason the SEC approved the registration of those entities. This is best explained by the Intellectual Property Code, Sections 168 and 169.
SECTION 168. Unfair Competition, Rights, Regulation and Remedies. —
168.1. A person who has identified in the mind of the public the goods he manufactures or deals in, his business or services from those of others, whether or not a registered mark is employed, has a property right in the goodwill of the said goods, business or services so identified, which will be protected in the same manner as other property rights.
168.2. Any person who shall employ deception or any other means contrary to good faith by which he shall pass off the goods manufactured by him or in which he deals, or his business, or services for those of the one having established such goodwill, or who shall commit any acts calculated to produce said result, shall be guilty of unfair competition, and shall be subject to an action therefor.
SECTION 169. False Designations of Origin; False Description or Representation. —
169.1. Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact, which:
a. Is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person, or as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of his or her goods, services, or commercial activities by another person; or
b. In commercial advertising or promotion, misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person's goods, services, or commercial activities, shall be liable to a civil action for damages and injunction provided in Sections 156 and 157 of this Act by any person who believes that he or she is or is likely to be damaged by such act.
The other 5 entities do not pose a problem because their products are different than CFC-GMFI's - one is a taxi, another is a bakery, etc. But FFL has the same product as CFC-GMFI and this will cause and is already causing confusion in the public mind.
In addition, for the past 18 years, the name "Couples for Christ" has been associated with CFC-GMFI. CFC-GMFI thus has a property right in the goodwill of this name according to Section 168 of the IP Code above. Further, quoting the Decision by the Court of Appeals on CA-G.R. SP No. 84545, EAGLE EXPRESS LINES, INC. vs CIRCLE FREIGHT INTERNATIONAL PHILS., INC.:
"In an old but still pertinent case, the Supreme Court pronounced that a corporation’s right to use its corporate or trade name is in the nature of a property right; a right in rem which the corporation may assert and protect against the whole world in the same manner as it may protect its tangible property, real or personal, against trespass or conversion. The use and adoption of a corporate name is regarded, to a certain extent, as a property right and one which cannot be impaired or defeated by subsequent appropriation by another corporation operating in the same commercial field (Western Equipment and Supply Company vs. Reyes, 51 Phil. 115).
A corporate name is peculiarly important as necessary to the very existence of the corporation. Its name is one of its vital attributes, an element of its being and existence, and essential to its identity with respect to the public with whom it transacts. As a general rule, a corporation must have an official appellation by which it is to sue, be sued, and perform legal acts. The name of the corporation in this respect designates the corporation in the same manner as the name of an individual designates the person; and the right to use its corporate name is as much a part of the corporate franchise as any other privilege granted."
Anent the sixth point of FFL's message talking about one big CFC with 2 branches. Frank's behavior in the past year has shown everyone that he can only be effective when he is the sole leader. The CFC of today does not have any place for dictators. Frank is incapable of placing himself under a higher authority. FFL is not a branch of CFC. Neither is it a child of CFC, as Fr. Tulabing asserts. CFC did not create FFL. To FFL, I would say this: what you are talking about is a merger in which the small party dictates to the large party. Let me tell you that you have a weird way of going about it. Accusing the big guy of being unfaithful to its faith amd mission and alienating its membership is not a good way in persuading them to merge. It does not endear you to them. If you are counting on the Stockholm Syndrome to work for you, you are sadly mistaken. Browbeating the members to make them submissive to your wishes may have worked during the early spanish colonial times, but in this day and age, you're barking up the wrong tree. CFC members are sane, thinking, and highly rational Christians practicing their God-given charisms. They have no wish to be held captive or hostage by a dictator. I am afraid, dear FFL, that your actions in the past year have made sure that your dream of one CFC with two branches will remain just that, a dream.
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Kapatid Anonymous,
Thank you very much for this analysis of our legal situation. I've taken the liberty of compiling it along with the "Ploughshares..." email of Frank Padilla and making it available for download on the Archived Documents section or here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0eutw37immy
Thank you,
CD
Kapatid Anomymous, the document "Message of Frank Padilla on 'The Couples for Christ Name,' 14 June, 2008" is downloadable in CFC-FFL website, other than the e-mail copy of C.D., in this link (copy-paste in your browser):
http://www.cfcffl.org/documents/documents.htm
http://www.cfcffl.org/documents/documents/fap_cfc_name_20080614.pdf
Since it's from the CFC-FFL website, it is considered official, as Ms. Alave of Inquirer puts it.
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Frank says: "In fact, I reiterate my long-standing and constant proposal, that of having one big CFC family but with two separate and distinct branches. This has many models among the religious congregations, such as the Franciscans and the Carmelites. This way, we co-exist peacefully, and even keep the door open to eventual reconciliation and true unity."
He does talk smooth, doesn't he? But do not be misled.
These words sound reasonable and conciliatory. But even as he says it, he continues to accuse CFC of veering away. What psychology do you suppose is at work here? The carrot and the stick? Bad-cop-good-cop played by the same person? One hand is confrontationally accusing while the other is conciliatory.
Let's analyse it.
Case 1 - Frank is serious about reconciliation and unity and the way to achieve it is to crush and overwhelm the other. If he is serious, why does he accuse CFC? Accusations are by nature confrontational. Is to accuse a method of reconciliation? I think his method can be summarized thus: Frank intends for CFC to plead guilty to the accusation and proclaim that he is right. So whatever CFC stands for now is wrong. This "reconciliation" can only mean that Frank should be restored as the head of CFC. Frank calls it reconciliation but what he really wants is submission. Case 1 is highly possible
Case 2 - Frank is serious about reconciliation and is making a mistake by continuing to accuse. If you want to convince the other, the worst way to do it is to accuse him. You'll get better mileage if you negotiate and let reason prevail. Assuming Frank's vaunted intelligence is still operative, I do not believe he cannot see this. I think he knows, so case 2 isn't it.
Case 3 - Frank is not serious about reconciliation but he cannot say it publicly. This is more consistent with the repetitive accusations. But what is the objective? It cannot be a peaceful merger of two organizations. In this case, it looks more like a hostile takeover. Case 3 is a possibility.
Case 4 - Frank is serious about reconciliation but is incapable of following a peaceful approach. People who know him say that Frank has always exhibited a certain aloofness, a distance, as if he is shy or maybe afraid of intimacy. If this is his personality type, he may not be capable of face to face negotiations. It seems easy to make him flare up. Bro Jerome showed this may be so. If you can't persuade, what course of action do you have left? Looks to me like a scene from a gangster movie where the cops have the bad guys surrounded. First you reason with them. Failing that you tell them to surrender. Failing that you tell the SWAT team to storm the place. Since he can't reason, he's telling CFC to surrender by reviving CFCFI and continuing to accuse - in effect saying "you're wrong and I'm right and you don't even own your name. So give up now". Or else?
Whichever case it really is, the outcome that Frank is looking for seems clear. He wants to be the head of CFC. It doesn't matter how. The end justifies the means. He wants to be the dictator again, even if it means destroying CFC, the relationships between members and the goodwill that has been gained over the years. Using the Bishops is acceptable to him, as is making the patently false claim of being the founder. He believes that being the unopposed and unquestioned head of CFC is his moral, spiritual and ethical birthright.
It does not matter to him that the majority of CFC members has lost faith in him, that his credibility is shot to pieces. After all, everybody else is wrong because he is the only one who can be right. Isn't he the anointed keeper of the charism? Isn't it true that wherever he is there CFC will be? Since he is in FFL, then whatever CFC has must be false, right?
Yet what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but suffers the loss of his own soul? What loss? Frank is the anointed keeper of the charism. How can he be wrong?
As anonymous said, Frank's behavior over the past year has singlehandedly ensured that a peaceful reconciliation could ever happen. This is not because the members are not capable of loving one another. It is because Frank cannot accept an organization where he is not the undisputed head.
If he is serious about reconciliation, do you really think Frank will submit his will to the IC? Remember the CFC Statutes approved by the Vatican states that the IC is the governing body of CFC worldwide. Do you think he will throw his FFL statutes away and enjoin his FFL flock to submit to the IC's governance? Puputi muna ang uwak.
His intent is to quash the CFC Statutes and replace it with his own. That will, of course, invalidate the Vatican recognition. He wants a merger where his group (the little guy) intends to dictate terms to CFC (the big guy). Sort of like the Equitable - PCI Bank "merger". The little guy wants to take over the big guy.
Mag kapatid, forget about eventual reconciliation and unity. FFL has trodden its own path for a year now. It has veered away from the CFC mission and vision and statutes. They have their own mission and vision. They have their own statutes. These are two groups with two completely different identities. The events and Frank's behavior over the past year has made it impossible for these two groups to become one. Besides, it takes two to tango. Reconciliation cannot happen without the approval of all CFC members. Do you really want to have Frank back as the head of CFC?
Frank says: "In fact, I reiterate my long-standing and constant proposal, that of having one big CFC family but with two separate and distinct branches. This has many models among the religious congregations, such as the Franciscans and the Carmelites. This way, we co-exist peacefully, and even keep the door open to eventual reconciliation and true unity."
i think this is what ffl thought would happen: when they supposedly got the nod of sec re the name CFC, baka akala nila we in CFCGMFI would, in exasperation, throw in the towel and concede to sharing the name "CFC" (let's face it, it had gotten pretty tiring). it's like agreeing to get together just so the 2 parties could share the name, but sleep in different bedrooms. that way, "what is mine is yours, and what is yours is mine", pati sa assets. parang mag-asawa nga di ba?
o kaya, parang mag-asawang naghiwalay, pero walang annulment. so legally, conjugal pa rin lahat. nung magulo pa, ayaw pa umuwi nung isa. pero nang maging maayos na ang lahat (wala nang utang, naplantsa na ang mga gusot, etc.), naisipan nang umuwi nung naglayas na spouse. masaya di ba? kasi walang effort sa part nya. yung asawa na nya ang nag-ayos ng lahat. walang kahirap-hirap, di ba?
Anonymous said and asked...
Do you really want to have Frank back as the head of CFC?
NO, he has no moral authority to lead the CFC Flock after being guilty of land scam without a sign of REPENTANCE.
I demand Apology from FRANK.
I was mislead and deceived, I looked at this person in the year since 2001 at man of integrity, honesty and holy. BUT YET FRANK and his spouse COMMITTED a FRAUD/Land SCAM.
I challenge Frank and/or ALL FFL for DEBATE REGARDING the OFFICIAL CFC STATUTE duly RECOGNIZED by the VATICAN specifically that the International Council is the governing body of CFC worldwide.
IF you FRANK and all FFL cant abide the statute THEN STOP CALLING YOURSELVES CFC, YOU have no right to call YOURSELVES CFC.
Bishop GABBY - UPHOLD the CFC Statute. You been talking and referencig CFC statutes in the Philippine Daily Inquirer, WHY DID YOU NOT UPHOLD and Tell FRANK to ABIDE The CFC Statute.
Simple lang DIBA. Mahirap ba to INTINDIHIN.
YOU, Frank and FFL even Teach the Youth to do the same.
Is this your LEGACY, Frank and FFL?
Who wants to take the challenge?
Max
NO! NO! NO! NO! PARA QUE? MANGUNGUTANG NA NAMAN? PAGKATAPOS RESIGN? PARA BAYARAN NG NAIWAN! SA BISAYA PA! AY NATA DOY! UWATA LOLO MO! PASSE NAKA FRANK! CONSUMATUM EST!
HILUM KA DIHA! GOD BLESS US ALL!
before working full time for CFC, i had the privilege of working for a catholic preacher. it is from him that i learned about a thing called "hyper faith". i searched for his articles on hyper faith and found this (see below). it is just one of the symptoms of hyper faith. my prayer is that ffl wouldn't fall into this trap.
Symptom #5:
You’ll Have A Distorted Faith System:
You’re Spiritually Abused
Toxic Faith is usually supported by a Toxic Faith System.
Which is spiritually abusive.
I must confess that my community, Light of Jesus, had, at one time in our history, elements of this Toxic Faith System. Why? Because I was the leader of the group, and I had Toxic Faith. When the leader of a group has Toxic Faith, he creates a Toxic Faith System in his group. I think any religious group is open to such tendencies, and we need to be very careful. (I have asked for forgiveness for being spiritually abusive from my community many times.)
To find out if your group, family, community, ministry, organization, or church has a Toxic Faith System, look for these 7 Elements:
1. The Leader claims special access to God and maintains control and authoritarian rule
Only he or she (or they) can make decisions for the group and the individuals within the group. You can’t question this Leader or you’re seen as questioning God. You need to totally agree with the Leader or get out.
2. The Leader is punitive, judgmental, and castigating
There is a constant purging from the ranks. If you ask a question that is deemed questioning his authority, you’re labelled a rebel, someone with a critical spirit, and will be removed.
3. The Leader isn’t accountable to anyone
This is very dangerous. Even the Pope has a College of Cardinals and Bishops—and his teaching authority is linked to them.
4. No real Communication between Leaders and Members
Someone or some people—the Leader’s inner circle—shield the top Leader from what the members are actually saying or experiencing.
5. Members feel it’s their group “Against the World”
The members feel that their group is in the cutting edge of God’s work in this sinful world. That their group is the best. That their group is especially chosen by God as either the only way of Salvation, or at the very least, His hand-picked SWAT team against evil. Other groups simply cannot compare.
6. Members are suffering
But in reality, members are suffering. Emotionally, they’re burned out; Physically, their tired; Financially, they’re not growing (the organization may be getting richer, and the Leader is getting richer, but the members are not); and spiritually, they’re stagnant—because their highest loyalty is not to God anymore but to their Leader and the System.
7. The priorities taught to members are as follows:
· Submit to the Leader at all times.
· Don’t ask, don’t doubt, don’t think. (This is what submission means.)
· Never express feelings except positive ones.
· Don’t trust outsiders. (Just listen to our teachings.)
· Don’t do anything outside your role.
· You need to give money or else.
· Protect the image of the organization at all costs.
Jesus said, Beware of the false prophets, who come in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.[3] False prophets don’t have to be cultic leaders or strange guys who call themselves Messiah. When any leader-a priest, a bishop, a pastor, a lay leader-robs people of their ability to think, controls them by his use of guilt and fear, manipulating them to strengthen his power or to enrich himself, he is a false prophet.
When a Leader creates his own exacting standards and tells people that unless they follow them, they’ll not enter the Kingdom of Heaven, he is shutting Heaven’s gates to them. About them, Jesus said, Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[4]
We can invite FAP back but he should pass the process of completing CLP especially Section 4-"REPENTANCE and Faith". He should restart as member, then head of household, unit, chapter, cluster, sector, provincial, BOE, EA, then finally IC. Simpleng-simple. However, he may need another 27 years to complete this reformation process.
NO CAN DO!
gusto nilang maki share sa pangalan pagkatapos nyang pagbintangan lahat... ano tingin nyo sa 'min?
hey momoy! na iirita ka rin pala!
mga angkan ni tandang sora!! humanda na!!
NO CAN DO!
gusto nilang maki share sa pangalan pagkatapos nyang pagbintangan lahat... ano tingin nyo sa 'min?
hey momoy! na iirita ka rin pala!
mga angkan ni tandang sora!! humanda na!!
hahaha! yes, nakakainis na rin kasi. pero bro, remember, Jesus got angry too, but did not sin. so instead of hurling cuss words, ipag-pray pa rin natin sila... over and over and over. =)
NO. I DO NOT WANT FRANK BACK IN CFC AS A MEMBER, MUCH LESS A LEADER. UNLESS HE HAS GENUINE REPENTANCE AND WILL BECOME LOYAL TO GOD AND THE COMMUNITY.
1. I do not want him back because hes lied and ontinues to lie. Nagsinungaling siya at gumawa ng kwento last Feb. 2007 ng sinabi niya na nag-resign siya subalit hindi ang tamang dahilan ang binanggit niya. Ang totoo kasi ay mahirap niyang tanggapin sa madla dahil ang totoong dahilan ay ang inggit at selos nila kay Bro. Tony dahil sa kaniyang mga recognition at awards.
2. Nagsinungaling na naman siya ng sinabi niyang nag-wiwitch hunt ang IC sa Center. Alam naman niyang mga empleyado ang nagsumbong laban kay Lachie at Maribel na siyang nagpapatakbo nooon ng center under the LEADERSHIP OF FRANK. Ang paper trail ng mga indiscretions would have led to Frank's office as "captain of the ship". Kaya pinilit niyang ipagtanggol ang kaniyang mga katoto!
3. Nagsinungaling na naman si Frank ng sinabi niyang nagpilit ang IC na ituloy ang election kung saan HINDI SI FRANK NA-NOMINATE kaya ayaw niya ng election. Eh ang Elders Assembly ang nag-decide na ituloy ang election. And we followed the rules of the community and had the election.
4. Habang nagpre-prepare ang mga leaders for a solemn activity such as the election of the International Council and the Board of Elders, si Frank at ang kaniyang mga alagad ay secretly nag-meeting sa bahay ni Contreras para pag-planohan kung papano hindi matutuloy ang election at kung papano papasok ang obispo sa eksena. Tapos, tulad ng kanilang pinagusapan ay nag-walk out silang mga kampon ni Frank during the election. Nasa minutes lahat ng kanilang gagawin at ginawa sa Easter Bunnies & Playboy meeting na ini-leak ni Oca Oblepias sa IC.
5. Pinagiisipan pa lang ng mga CFC leaders kung papaano ang gagawin between CFC and GK ay nag-plano na naman ang mga tao ni Frank kung papaano gagamitin ang isa pang obispo para IHIWALAY ANG GK SA CFC! Nabuko sila ng magkamali si Papa Bear at ipinadala kay Gerry ng Pfizer ang mungkahi "kuno" ng obispo sa halip na kay Gerry Padilla ang email!
So you see, punong-puno ng mga katiwalian at kasinungalingan at pag-tratraidor si Frank at ang mga tao niya kaya HINDI AKO SANGAYON NA IBALIK SI FRANK SA CFC!
Hello all!
Better late than never.
Nasa bakasyon kami June 7 to July 5 at kababalik lang namin ngayon umaga dito sa Saudi and YES nasa Xavier at Luneta kami.
Kasama kami - In Defense Of The Real CFC!
Arnold P. Mapue
Editha DeGuia-Mapue
Leaders, Cluster 2 Chapter D
Riyadh, KSA
Nicole Arnold P. Mapue
Fiona Charlone Mapue
Leaders, Youth For Christ
Riyadh, KSA / Assumption College
Mga kapatid, as I read the SEC order, FAP was given 30 days from the order issue date to submit 2007 documents. Failing this, the order will not be executory. It's been 32 days (June 14 pa dito sa amin). Have you guys heard anything new?
Well, as what other religion groups say, we are the salvation and if you join us you will be saved. You can not avoid things like that especially those people who hated to be underpowered. Frank, who is desperate to have his power back, he recall his minions to do the job. Even if he acquired the "CFC" name, 'wala pa ring mawawala sa atin'. So, lets leave him because we are just wasting time and continue what we are fruitfully doing. Marami pa tayo kailangan baguhin sa community natin at baka sa sobrang seryoso natin sa isyung ito...malamangan tayo ng kalaban natin.
I would like to nominate Frank Padilla to the HALL OF SHAME or HALL OF INFAMY.
Pls help me decide which one is more appropriate and provide justifications.
Diczen Young
This comment is a bit late at this point and time, however its better late than never. It's really very hard and a struggle to be "STILL". Nevertheless let us all remember our theme "LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I LOVED YOU". The truth will set us free. We have full support for the IC.
Ramon and Norma Florendo
CFC Edmonton, Canada
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